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    Player
    SlogDog's Avatar
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    Slig Sansoucie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kethic View Post
    Mechanically, adding it to a dps skill could make sense, but it doesn't fit their WHM theme. Tetra has a long enough cooldown to keep some semblance of balance while removing some RNG and adding an additional trigger.
    With all due respect their white mage "theme" is the biggest problem currently.
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    Len Orlan
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 100
    How very fitting that White Mage's resource is flowers considering that will be lining its shallow, unmarked grave.

    You deserved better White Mage.
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    Yal Aid
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Len View Post
    How very fitting that White Mage's resource is flowers considering that will be lining its shallow, unmarked grave.

    You deserved better White Mage.
    eh, they'll Fix it eventually probably by going waay to far in the other direction. I'm holding out hope that Lillies/Confession gets a little more attention before June and the incoming dmg in Stormblood is far in excess of anything we've seen before. Return of the 2.0 era 4-mans please!!
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    Kethic Zachrias
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Can't argue there.
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Anyone else notice that they took away Bio?... So thats:

    Aero- Weave gone.
    Bio- Weave gone.
    Blizzard II- AOE over 10 Potency gone... that might be gone too, tbh. Dont see miasma ii on SCH hotbars anywhere.

    SMN is getting trait boosts to miasma and bio II, which means they probably staying the same, and Bane is become worse.


    Looking great this expansion. At least we still have ruin II to weave with? 

    Thanks SE. You made it really easy to decide to level RDM to 70 and leave SCH in a box.
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 06-01-2017 at 07:55 AM.

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    Quinton Lightblaze
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Anyone else notice that they took away Bio?... So thats:

    Aero- Weave gone.
    Bio- Weave gone.
    Blizzard II- AOE over 10 Potency gone... that might be gone too, tbh. Dont see miasma ii on SCH hotbars anywhere.

    SMN is getting trait boosts to miasma and bio II, which means they probably staying the same, and Bane is become worse.


    Looking great this expansion. At least we still have ruin II to weave with? 

    Thanks SE. You made it really easy to decide to level RDM to 70 and leave SCH in a box.
    We lost Blizzard 2 and Miasma 2 but Bio3 and Ruin2 are instant cast and Ruin2 is 100 potency now
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvLhIMJEvaQ
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    I'm just some guy...

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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    I think something that may have been missed (not to say it solves everything, but) Assize is now both a potent heal AND a potent AoE.
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    Shaartis Laggal
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    Louisoix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I think something that may have been missed (not to say it solves everything, but) Assize is now both a potent heal AND a potent AoE.
    AST got an ability that can do 900 potency heal and 200 potency damage for the same CD.
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    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
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    Machinist Lv 80
    First, while the concerns are quite legit, I feel like a lot of the hubris is partially initial shock.

    That aside, it speaks in volumes when one healing job gets gutted to kit out the others for the role actions. . . I'm aware that AST/SCH will likely be the preferred healer duo if nothing is changed, but I wouldn't count out WHM just yet (and SE, if you're reading this, let there be no mistake: WHM is going to need a better change). A few of the videos and articles pinpointed the fact that much of what made WHM unique was taken from them to create the role actions, but they barely got anything to make up for it, and that's largely where the problem lies. AST/SCH are now better because WHM was made worse. And if it hasn't been said, let it be said that while SE envisions a "pure healer" concept for WHM, the game and the meta simply requires more than that.

    This isn't saying the other two weren't viable on their own, but that without the WHM spells/abilities, or the other jobs' proxies to them, they were effectively niche, and designed to augment a WHM, not replace it. Granted, such isn't the case looking at it now, but rather than succumbing to mass hysteria or threatening to quit or declaring "Delete WHM", form and provide organized feedback that SE can revisit the job with.

    What are the strengths of the WHM? - Build on them
    What are the weaknesses? - Improve them
    How can it perform better at different levels? - Think and design around this

    SCH got more cruise control. AST has a Healer-Wildfire and auto-card-management (Yes, I'm over generalizing, they have more than that). WHM just became the Healer Role Action blueprint. They need more than that.
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Please tell me its really May the 30th and the Embargo has not been yet lifted... please tell me this is all just a bad dream and were going to wake up....

    please...
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