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  1. #541
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    bswpayton's Avatar
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    Nic Pay
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Niroken View Post
    Worked for AST. They could heal through content at 3.0, as WHM will be able to do at 4.0 but people complained, look at them now.
    The thing about it tho is they likely wont change it simply because the people whom raid is such a small percentage of the population and whm will be used by plenty of non raiders so its gona take some push to get them to fix it.
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  2. #542
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    bounddreamer's Avatar
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Wait and see how it plays, especially in raiding. So much doom and gloom and all I see is shiny things everywhere.
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  3. #543
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    Shaartis Laggal
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    Louisoix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    Wait and see how it plays, especially in raiding. So much doom and gloom and all I see is shiny things everywhere.
    Why would you play it. It still barely heals the same as the other 2 healer, but without the DPS cooldowns.
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  4. #544
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    Patricia Nirvana
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Saraphin View Post
    This...this is the reason WHY this is bad:

    i was talking about the changes and this is what someone said when i said we get the skills taken away from us:

    [12:37 PM] M S: what the heck is a x role
    [12:38 PM] M S: you mean cross class?
    [12:39 PM] M S: if so, isn't that better? WHM still has them, and now the other healers can use them too
    [12:42 PM] Dante: no
    [12:42 PM] Dante: we get them taken away
    [12:42 PM] Dante: we have to cross class/x-role them
    [12:42 PM] Dante: to have them.
    [12:43 PM] M S: so we can still use them
    [12:43 PM] M S: what's the big deal?
    Said it before. This is the exact issue. We need to cross skill pretty much everything back, we won't even be able to play with the new role skills if we want our original stuff back -.-
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  5. #545
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    IttyBitty's Avatar
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    Kasumi Shirinami
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I would also like to point out that WHM's ability to handle older content has been harmed considerably with the removal of Stoneskin, such as with mechanics that required shielding (eg T10 prey).

    You can say old content doesn't matter if you want, but it is still harming the class.
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  6. #546
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    Niroken's Avatar
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    Nanaki Naki
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    The thing about it tho is they likely wont change it simply because the people whom raid is such a small percentage of the population and whm will be used by plenty of non raiders so its gona take some push to get them to fix it.
    Which makes me wonder in that case then, why did AST get buffs at all? Raid ability doesn't matter for WHM but it's important for AST to be viable?

    Maybe it's because WHM is from 1.0 while SCH and AST is Yoshi-P's babies so he has no idea what to do with WHM. All joking aside, if they didn't listen to our feedback throughout 3.0 then I doubt 4.0 is going to be different. AST and SCH players can let go of the chair arms (they might break soon), your not getting nerfed.
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  7. #547
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    Exiled_Tonberry's Avatar
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaSonic View Post
    Even Worse because WHM not only lost Divine Seal. It got nerfed and increased Cooldown. AST lost the healing part of Synastry, but with the new Divine Seal it's still the same and SCH got it for free.
    Seriously. Take our spell, nerf it, give it back to us.
    What the hell was the point in this? It just seems trollish.
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  8. #548
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    Dante Haiwindo
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    Ultros
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Snat View Post
    Said it before. This is the exact issue. We need to cross skill pretty much everything back, we won't even be able to play with the new role skills if we want our original stuff back -.-
    we're not even going to be able to have Swift cast if we want ALL our old skills.
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  9. #549
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    Yorumi Eienyuki
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    Ultros
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    Red Mage Lv 77
    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    Wait and see how it plays, especially in raiding. So much doom and gloom and all I see is shiny things everywhere.
    I'm getting damn sick of this as a reply. Seriously, when they said "pure healer" we said it wouldn't work and nothing we saw in the video would give whm a raid spot. And all we hear is people ignoring everything and believing there's some radical change to whm despite what devs said and we had to wait till we had the tool tips. Now these people have just moved on to wait for raids, no whm sucks. The class has been gutted and I don't need to see the "NO whm" party finders to know what I can figure out from the tooltips.
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  10. #550
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    Delphinium_Consolida's Avatar
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    A' Boy
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    Sargatanas
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    Botanist Lv 50

    Delete WHM

    Is whm the new monk for this expansion?

    I was under the impression, that one of the main reasons we only got two new jobs, none of which were tanks or healers, was that more resources could be directed towards the balancing of our current roles.

    I feel rather than rectify, the issues have just been exacerbated. SE why
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    Last edited by Delphinium_Consolida; 06-01-2017 at 02:18 AM.

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