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    Thunda_Cat_SMASH's Avatar
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Marauder Lv 79
    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    RNG does not belong on WHM?
    ...Hasn't RNG been on WHM this entire time, though?
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    Jugem Mumei
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 37
    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    RNG does not belong on WHM.

    RNG does not belong on WHM.

    RNG does not belong on WHM.

    Can we make the dev team write this out a 100 times?
    RNG could work if it wasn't designed like this. Say a certain proc would reset the duration for Regen or something, that would work fine as a mechanic.

    Making your AoE heal, mitigation, and MP management depend on RNG is quite frankly stupid. It's like they don't even know how WHM is played. Even Cure-spamming WHM count their GCD to land the heals at the right time, nobody just spams it to get procs.

    WHM as a job will probably survive for dungeons since they nerfed SCH AoE into the ground, but two wrongs don't make a right.
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    Last edited by eagledorf; 06-01-2017 at 10:25 AM.
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    Madame Butterfly
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 70
    I have been a WHM since the beginning. Why is your team taking one of the most iconic jobs in the whole game and turning it into a joke? I am begging you Yoshi please make WHM viable again. Make it a job we can all be proud of again.
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    Iepuras Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Aye. As a WHM from the beginning of ARR till now these changes basically strip out all of the love WHM had and makes it available to other healers. Looks like I'm not healing anymore.
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    Mehdi Calder
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    Marilith
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    Carpenter Lv 90
    Please, SE, reconsider buffing WHM so that it is an equal choice with SCH and AST.
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    Onion Nights
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I too am here to say I have mained WHM since 2.0 and feel like they've left the job without any utility going forward. I don't think I'll be levelling it for the expansion looking at the current stuff.

    I just don't understand how they looked at the feedback of "WHM is in a bad place, the healing is good but they have subpar utility compared to both other healers" and came up with "Ah, well what they want is to spam Cure more"
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    Verdan Lankost
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    Goblin
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    Carpenter Lv 70
    It's pretty egregious when compared to the Paladin. Paladins got a mechanic that either builds up steadily or fast but randomly, AoE, magic mitigation, and a way to use mana to do damage. All of those are complaints that have dogged the paladin for the whole time it's been around. White mages LOST ability to prevent damage, have a completely random mechanic that has additional random parts to it(20% cure/2 you get a lily, 20% on a crit cure/2 assize/asylum cooldowns reduced, 20% cure/2 your party members get a confession), and gained no utility that isn't just damage or healing. They addressed the paladins' complaints thematically, interestingly, and made the job both more viable and fun in the process. White mages got nothing adressed, and rely even more on frustrating random chances to make them feel like a unique class.
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    Met Rhukon
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Throwing my voice into the crowd so SE might pay more attention. This was my initial reaction upon

    Met> First
    Met> Why is it RNG?
    Met> Second, why is it based on spells a WHM wouldn't be using?
    Met> Third, why is Stoneskin on a 60 second cooldown? And why does it cost our guage?
    Met> Fourth, the confessional system
    Met> Why is THAT rng too?
    Met> Why does it get built up with single target casts, but spent on an AoE?
    Met> When will I EVER cast Cure or Cure II on someone not the MT?

    I didn't even think they were serious about removing SS because what reason did they have to do that? I just assumed people were overreacting and it just wasn't in the screenshot at the time.

    They could bake in a buff into Confession. Give them a defense boost per stack. Have them get 'Tailwind' instead to increase speed.

    Was going to main WHM going forward as I did since buying the game but now I'm really considering dropping it for AST, or even drop healing all together and just main RDM.
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    Aimori Duciel
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    I just want to remind people that we lost a bunch of abilities, and traits. We lost Shell protect, We lost super holy, We lost stone skin, granite ss, damage on fluid aura, a whole bunch of utility ect. While some things we lost I can understand, all we have got back was a 3 minute Benediction????? Why do we keep getting destroyed every patch. This is suppose to balance healers? I really hope our rework doesn't come as late as 5.0 because Square is dishonoring this iconic class every single time they try to fix or balance it. I really don't understand how they think this will fix anything.. I am scared for any new healer classes they try to introduce into this game.
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    Last edited by Jxnibbles; 06-01-2017 at 06:20 AM.

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    Dante Haiwindo
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    Ultros
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    and another tidbit from Discord...

    [2:29 PM] N: Can we stop beating the fresh dead corpse of WHM
    [2:29 PM] N: let it rest in pieces intact

    Hey...SE...even other players that DON'T PLAY WHM ARE SAYING IT'S DEAD.
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