Thread: Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

Initial non-play-tested thoughts of the WHM changes

I expected the 100% Lily Generation on Cure. I'm disappointed that there aren't more ways to proc Lilies at a low rate to increase the fluidity of the kit as a whole.

Plenary Indulgence change is surprising but not completely unexpected when thinking back. You can kinda tell they were thinking of making it an AoE because it had a massive range to it and it affected all party members. It then became better as a tank heal due to how Confessions accumulate. They definitely wanted to nip that in the bud. Overall - it's not amazing but I like that it's an augmentation to WHM's AoE heal kit.

1. Medica + PI = 450 potency heal.
2. Cure III + PI = 700 potency heal, rivaling that of Earthly Star (on the same CD timer too)
3. Medica + Medica + PI = 900 potency healing total (useful for those chain AoEs that can go out)
4. Medica II + PI = 350 Initial Potency + 500 Potency Total HoT

Not so sure how much I'd use the Medica II + PI combination as Medica II is already pretty potent and efficient. Since PI is a static value, combing it with Medica gives the most bang for your buck though the burst power of Cure III + PI allows WHM to almost match Earthly Star in any singular burst.

It's not Tetra but I'm not disappointed in this change either.

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An issue when using the white mage action Cure wherein the rate at which players receive the Freecure status is higher than intended.

/think.....

Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

...Though I won't get to try the savage raids until tonight... I'm liking the WHM changes. PI looks good. It's difficult for me to imagine a situation wherein I would ever get 3 stacks (and still need extra healing from PI), but the current iteration looks good even with 1 stack.

I also like that I will be able to reliably shield with the use of Cure now. From my experience in the primals... I think Benison will be pretty good with no RNG to it.

Combined with WHM's DPS potential... is a viable spot in the meta too much to hope for? I'm cautiously optimistic right now.

I agree, I don't think there would be any situation where 3-stacks would come to ahead but who knows with the new Savage tier. I still like the 1 stack bonus but if I can get 2, that'd be good due to the 1 minute CD.

Also, even if WHM is not meta, to me it has enough tools to differentiate it from the other healers that players should consider WHM and determine if its strengths compliment their group while its weaknesses don't hamper it too much.

I will say, I've done O2 normal, effectively the training dummy fight, while sustaining 95%+ DPSing uptime and my MP never dropped below 75% due to how the kit works. The DPS sustainability is definitely there now compared to how WHM ran in the past. The nerf to Balance will also allow WHM's DPS contribution to shine more too, though how much the shift in the AST DPS contribution will need some time to figure out because AST now has three cards that directly affect raid DPS and not just two. Overall AST's contribution will be lower, but by how much, who's to say.

Time will tell about WHM's position.

[edit] Angered has already downed O3S. Healer Composition = WHM/AST

Originally Posted by simiii

That would be because ast can't go nocturnal with a sch.
Gota build comps around the ast.but now I can pretty much always keep dps buffs up as a ast so ya. Can't seem to find any reason play my whm now the old PI was worthless but at least I could use it as a mini tetra on the tank but now it's even more useless. Glad all my sub money is going towards giving ast more toys.

That's your own loss and inflexibility then if you believe that.

You do also realize that even though AST has been given another DPS buff card, AST's absolute ceiling of contribution has been reduced due to the nerf on Balance? Your absolute maximum contribution with perfect Balance draws is 100s uptime every 120s. With the 10% nerf to balance AST's absolute perfect contribution to raid DPS is 4.16%. If we go with the more reasonable 40s Balance every 120s that I posted before AST's contribution via Balance is now 1.67% to the raid DPS.

This actually mean, using the numbers in that post I gave you before -

WHM's contribution = 2,080 DPS
AST's contribution = 1,587 DPS + (23,282 * 0.0167)DPS = 1,587D DPS + 388.03 DPS = 1,975.03 DPS

Taking ONLY Expanded Balance into consideration, WHMs DPS > ASTs DPS currently using current damage data and trends.

Now, this calculation above doesn't note for the fact that AST now has 3 chances to pull a DPS boosting card versus 2, so there are more opportunities for Expanded DPS boost. Also take into account 10%+ Crit and 10%+ Attack Speed =/= 10% additional damage so their contribution to AST's DPS will be less compared to Balance. How that math concludes at the end - well, I have no idea just yet because I don't want to really put the time into it ATM due to work but let's say overall AST's potential has fallen in the DPS-utility contribution.

Please get off the AST epeen. Thank you.

[edit] Also Solitude cleared O3S. Their healer comp = AST/SCH.

We knew AST was going to make out like a bandit this patch, but it's good to see the high skill tier teams putting due consideration into the other two healers.