Thread: Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

Originally Posted by Niroken

Could you grab a non joking post that suggests that, I can't seem to find one but it looks like you found a few at least.

Human psychology. People have an innate desire to perceive themselves as better than everyone else in one way or another, and the easiest way to do that in a game is to gravitate to an overpowered class/job/spec.

Originally Posted by VanilleFang

Thunda is a troll. Ignore her.

Difference of opinion = Trolling. TIL something new~

Originally Posted by VanilleFang

No no. You misunderstand. It's your unwillingness to properly understand others' PoV, or your ability to post ridiculous hyperbolic things that make you a troll.

I understand other people's PoV just fine, but I don't agree with it. Thus by your criteria, that means that my disagreeing with you makes me a troll.

Originally Posted by xNewbx

The only thing the upset WHM's will take at this point is a 20% damage increase AoE balance to all party members for 30 seconds on a minute cooldown.
Then maybe... just maybe, perhaps they will consider everything to be fair.

I would be perfectly contented with not feeling like a f***ing burden to my group because all I can do is healing and hey, guess what, AST does even THAT better than me.
But hey, I'm used to being called a 'whiner for nothing' by now and told to just lay down so that people have an easier time to kick me harder.


Also, to the person saying we are only told to shut up because we are not giving facts etc.
Most who complained did in the beginning. I had several talks with people via Discord where I explained and crunshed numbers etc about why I'm so pissed about this. Comparing AST to the other healers, giving examples from experience how skills play out, when I needed, eg Stoneskin, in lower dungeons etc and why loosing that skill to a shield on a freaking CD hurts a lot. Most even understood. I gave arguments here, too. Guess what? I'm still getting called a terrible whiner who has to shut the f**k up. So why even bother, when nobody listens (SE) or just brush it off (players who don't play WHM, mostly) anyway?

Originally Posted by Semirhage

I find all of the "shut up and stop being so dramatic" posts pretty tiresome considering the fact that WHM is the most nerfed job in the game by a considerable margin. At this point even trivial nerfs are going to pull at least a "REALLY!?" from WHM loyalists. The drama tantrums aren't single-issue. There's a multi-expansion trend. Nerfs to Medica 2 (while the fairy still has the ability to throw out an AOE regen that's similar to the old version), Holy, Stoneskin, etc. Vanishingly few nerfs to the already widely-considered OP Scholar while those nerfs took place. Extra attention to the new job that progressed into buffing them to Scholar levels of OP. Extra salt rubbed in there because Astro's base kit is pretty much WHM's, but the original spent the previous expansion getting clubbed with the nerf bat and the newbie got buffed to a point they're arguably stronger than the original kit.

My point here isn't to go through a laundry list of rants about some petty issues people barely remember from years ago, it's to remind that WHMs have years of "why are they nerfing that? Ugh I guess we'll deal" job adjustment patches. Scholars have been allowed to remain OP for so long that I know more than one career WHM who thought that maybe we'd sit on that throne for a patch or two...but now see our kit with a starglobe getting an OP crown while we get nerfed again with a huge round of skill removal. Jealousy is petty, but it's there.

I enjoy the class lore of WHM. I'm not really interested in Astro. I'm getting bored of being nerfed. I will likely swap mains until I see the dev team make mid-expansion adjustments to WHM that don't begin with "potency reduced by..." I don't think this is unreasonable or over the top.

Can they please finally give us a cross-server fl? Someone who thinks so alike as I do needs to be on it.

There's a comment in an interview about SAM having more dps then other jobs, however to make up the difference it lacks utility. I'm afraid WHM is the healer equivalent, It's just their chosen mentality going forward at the current time.

The problem is, no one wants extra healing. At the end of the day the other healers will be able to heal content regardless.