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    Apparently, this is what we're getting...

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...s_etc/diy7w1e/
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    Like we expected, they only changed the procrates of the lilies, which doesn't change a thing.
    - The reward from lilies is still CD reduction, which is crap.
    - Gaining lilies is still only from casting Cure and Cure II spells, which are the ones we try to avoid as much as we can as they're the most inefficient we have.
    - Divine Benison is still gated behind the lilies

    So pretty much all the remarks which were compiled on the first post are still valid.
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    Uriel Valesti
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphyna View Post
    Apparently, this is what we're getting...

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...s_etc/diy7w1e/
    So they only really changed how Cure and Cure II interact with Lilies? That's... yeah. WONDERFUL. /s
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    At this point, after seeing the updated skills, it's going to take everyone running double AST in raids for SE to finally take notice (SCH isn't much better off than WHM tbh). With how lillies will basically be ignored it will be 3.0 WHM with a free heal now and again with Plenury.

    Divine Bension being 30s is nice but to make it reliable you're basically gonna have to cure 2 before you use it every time (and hope the tank isn't already at full HP). It's a really bizarre design choice.
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    Nanaki Naki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Haven't you heard? Balanced jobs are underpowered. The only way to be considered good is to be massively overpowered.
    Oh, so you mean AST.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niroken View Post
    Oh, so you mean AST.
    If it's not overpowered it's bad, so yup! Just gotta make WHM more OP than AST so everyone runs double WHM instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    If it's not overpowered it's bad, so yup! Just gotta make WHM more OP than AST so everyone runs double WHM instead.
    Could you grab a non joking post that suggests that, I can't seem to find one but it looks like you found a few at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niroken View Post
    Could you grab a non joking post that suggests that, I can't seem to find one but it looks like you found a few at least.
    Thunda is a troll. Ignore her.

    Seriously though, no one wants WHM to be OP, we want balance. AST is overpowered compared to the other healers, WHM is UP in raids. Keeping all healers on equal playing fields shouldn't be that difficult.
    Why the hell did they not change Balance? That alone makes AST ridiculous strong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niroken View Post
    Could you grab a non joking post that suggests that, I can't seem to find one but it looks like you found a few at least.
    Human psychology. People have an innate desire to perceive themselves as better than everyone else in one way or another, and the easiest way to do that in a game is to gravitate to an overpowered class/job/spec.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    Thunda is a troll. Ignore her.
    Difference of opinion = Trolling. TIL something new~

    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    No no. You misunderstand. It's your unwillingness to properly understand others' PoV, or your ability to post ridiculous hyperbolic things that make you a troll.
    I understand other people's PoV just fine, but I don't agree with it. Thus by your criteria, that means that my disagreeing with you makes me a troll.
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    Last edited by Thunda_Cat_SMASH; 06-16-2017 at 05:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Difference of opinion = Trolling. TIL something new~
    No no. You misunderstand. It's your unwillingness to properly understand others' PoV, or your ability to post ridiculous hyperbolic things that make you a troll.
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