Thread: Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

I'm not going to add too much more theorycraft since early release is in two days and I'll probably revisit the numbers once release build hits (or we get patch notes). Here are my wish list desires for WHM on release and let's see how wrong I am.

1. Regen casts and HoT ticks have the ability to proc Confession stacks (25-35% rate)
2. Stone, Aero, and Regen casts have the ability to generate a Lily (20% rate)
3. Either higher recast reduction bonuses or better bonus effects on Lily usages (Divine Benision giving a higher shield depending on # of Lilies, Tetra granting a damage mitigation buff for a period of time, Asylum granting haste to anyone in the bubble, anyone hit by Assize getting a 5% of their HP shield of infinite duration, etc.)
4. A trait that reduces Largesse recast to 60s (and maybe increase the bonus potency to a total of 30%)

In theory with the way WHM is currently designed it should have the largest effective MP pool of the three healers, I'd almost argue you wouldn't need Largesse given the amount of oGCD heals they have too. I'm looking forward to pounding out SB with WHM after looking at the kit. Give it a few more ways to increase the overall kit synergy and you have a force to be reckoned with.

My only question is if Cure II is 100% is just casting it and get a Lilly or has to be off a proc cureII? Sorry if I miss that info if was alrdy said...

Originally Posted by odintius

My only question is if Cure II is 100% is just casting it and get a Lilly or has to be off a proc cureII? Sorry if I miss that info if was alrdy said...

Nothing will be confirmed until Friday though my guess is that it'll be 100% regardless of freecure Proc or not because the entire idea is to encourage to use Cure, get a freecure proc, use Cure II to get a 0MP cast and a Lily and then move onto a healing ability to Reduce their cooldown / Divine Benison.

This whole WHM debacle is rather worrisome both mechanically and mathematically. Mechanics in an MMO don't just change, more and new mechanics are added while older ones are often mashed together. Sure it might be able to heal through it fine enough as its talent is raw, powerful heals, that is all it has now. Protect, heals and some DPS. By itself (as in no job role abilities) all it can provide in terms of non healing support is a crummy barrier that is on a minute cooldown and needs lily to activate. Like, really? Are you pulling a 2.x summoner where the good abilities are coming later because they were too good? For the love of all that is good, please tell me the changes made are good enough to not warrant any mention in questions. Heck, please let there be changes period!

Here are the updated tooltips from the Susano Battle Challenge build: IMGUR Album

All I have to say is that I am extremely sad about my favorite class and I feel like quitting the game. They managed to "fix" lilies generation, but Confession is still an un-fun mess and the cooldown reduction for 1 lily does nothing but trigger my OCD - seriously, why is it not 5% at least? WHY FOUR? Another problem is that Divine Benison still consumes ALL lilies. Making it 15% doesn't help, SE!

I am really really sad about these changes. I expected a lot more from a dev team that saved a game.

Originally Posted by Maltothoris

That's better in some respects but not others. Stone 4 got reduced from 260 to 250. But other than that, theyt did try to make it better for the most part. Cure 1 being 50 percent and cure 2 100 but still doesn't change that CDR isn't all that valuable. THe lvl 68 trait is still the same. Thin Air wasn't touched. Divine Bension got reduced from 60s to 30s so its more reliable now but still not on demand. So some things were adjusted but I would it won't be til 4.1 for the major changes based how Omega goes.

I will level WHM to 70 through MSQ and then change my main. If they don't fix it by 4.1 I will be unsubbing. Now I get how Bard loyalists felt when 3.0 hit.

Originally Posted by Entilper

Here are the updated tooltips from the Susano Battle Challenge build: IMGUR Album

They still failed to realize that the Lilies system could have a 100% proc every time you take a step and let you hoard a million lilies at once, it would still be uninspired, boring, underwhelming and best left ignored.

Confessions and the 20% chance on crit procs are even more stupid.

Originally Posted by Entilper

Here are the updated tooltips from the Susano Battle Challenge build: IMGUR Album

WOW!! AMAZING!!! THIS IS JUST TOO MUCH RAWWWWWWWWWW!!!!

.... Now we really know who the reeeeeeeeaaaaaal king of MP effeciency be! No need to take Lucid Dreaming!!! Who even needs Divine Seal anymore?? When WHM can just keep dropping MAD HEAL BOMBZZZZZ nonstop with there infinite MP!?!?! hahahah just spam cure II bro ....... LOL

BIG NUMBERS

Divine Benison is THE BIGGEST HEAL IN THE GAME!!!! Accoring to this calculation

tank HP will be BIGGGGGGGGGGGewer then EVER (see what i did there?????????? ) Only need to wait 30 seconds and use Cure II to use it!!!!! now i'm thinkgen of all those 'healers' who said cure II was not theyre bread and butter........ psshhhhhhh.......... Thanks to Divine Benis being buffed like this Stoneskin is just a FART in THIN AIR!!! Since HWM is made it to be the biggest OP PURE HEALER in the game..... loss of several skills two cross role is NOTHING. WHM will be top pick for raids, cant wait!!!!!

go on upboat me trolls i dare u