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  1. #1951
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    Serilda's Avatar
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    Renard Lefeuvre
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    Yojimbo
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    I should note that according to the JP post, YoshiP's reveal wasn't meant as 'Since we acknowledge that WHM got a lame update this is our fix'. Rather, it was more a random detail he let slip on air unexpectedly. So we shouldn't get upset over the tone of the reveal itself until they address this outcry fully.

    Since SCH stealing FFXI-WHM's shielding mechanic apparently means that we can never have a good version, maybe we could steal FFXI-SCH's ability to make your next spell AOE. AOE Rescue would certainly teach my unruly FC to gather.

    (Not entirely serious, but fun to imagine.)
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  2. #1952
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    Exiled_Tonberry's Avatar
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    "Confirmed Cure II will trigger Lily with 100% chance" - From Reddit a bit under an hour ago (of this post's timestamp)
    That just means we're spamming Cure II. First, before anything, lilies need to proc on more used spells. Regens, AOE heals, asylum, hell even some DPS spells.

    After that, they need to look at some of the rewards that we get from the lily system, because what is essentially Stoneskin and CD reduction is so underwhelming.
    Also need to adjust confessions stacks.

    Sigh. Hopefully this isn't their idea of a "fix" and more of them just patching some stuff up until the real fix in 4.1
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  3. #1953
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    Jxnibbles's Avatar
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    Aimori Duciel
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    100% chance on cure 2 for a Spear.. Wow what a Band-Aid. As a Whm main I just want to travel in time to 4.1 already maybe then they would have something unique for us.
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  4. #1954
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    Estriella_Faerie's Avatar
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    Estriella Faerie
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    Cerberus
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
    Since SCH stealing FFXI-WHM's shielding mechanic apparently means that we can never have a good version, maybe we could steal FFXI-SCH's ability to make your next spell AOE. AOE Rescue would certainly teach my unruly FC to gather.

    (Not entirely serious, but fun to imagine.)
    That would be so funny ! Come here so that I can Cure III everyone ! LOL
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  5. #1955
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    Saraphin's Avatar
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    Dante Haiwindo
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    Ultros
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Estriella_Faerie View Post
    That would be so funny ! Come here so that I can Cure III everyone ! LOL

    yes, but AOE rescue would be a CC Skill, and that would be bad to give a class a CC-specialization while no one else gets it...
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  6. #1956
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    D'momo Pascal
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    You guys missed the entire point and purpose of the post/video. Yoshi came out to say that the media tour build everyone is freaking out over is over a month old and "a lot" has changed since then, not only cure 2. Point is, you're all overreacting on false information over everything, so sit down and chill until you actually get substantive and accurate information.

    Literally what everyone else has been telling you from the start.
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  7. #1957
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    Triptolemus Zaels
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    Warrior Lv 80
    None of this pure healing stuff is going to matter if you don't force players into healing more than 1 time every 20 seconds with their weakest heal. Zero need to heal = No healing no matter the incentive.
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  8. #1958
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    Leo Lab
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    Famfrit
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Apologies if these have been mentioned elsewhere in the thread, but there's a lot of stuff to parse through and I don't have time for that. I do have a couple suggestions, though. I'll list them in two sections, a "band-aid" section that can (I think) be done quickly, and an "overhaul" section that would require more time.

    Band-Aid
    • Have Lily proc chance on all GCD heals.
    • Have Confession stacks proc on Regen/Medica II ticks.
    • Change the reduction for one Lily stack from 4% to 5%.

    Overhaul
    • Have the CD reduction for Lily stacks be a spell speed buff that passively applies to all spells with no consumption for GCD healing or damage spells.
    • Consume stacked Lilies for 5%/10%/20% potency increase on oGCD heals. Benediction consumes them for same % shields instead, as it's a heal to full.
    • Remove Confession stacks altogether, have Plenary use Lilies instead.
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    Last edited by Leolab; 06-07-2017 at 06:10 AM.

  9. #1959
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    Met Rhukon
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by dark494 View Post
    You guys missed the entire point and purpose of the post/video. Yoshi came out to say that the media tour build everyone is freaking out over is over a month old and "a lot" has changed since then, not only cure 2. Point is, you're all overreacting on false information over everything, so sit down and chill until you actually get substantive and accurate information.

    Literally what everyone else has been telling you from the start.
    The issue isn't fixed with a number change. It's a core, fundamental flaw with the entire system. Sure, some points are coming from rates or potencies but the majority are coming from aspects that are very unlikely to change on their own.

    Yes, these points are likely going to be invalidated in 10 days regardless, but we're working off what we currently have in the hopes that if it hasn't changed, or changed the wrong way, Yoshi and the team can deal with it.
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  10. #1960
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    IttyBitty's Avatar
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    Kasumi Shirinami
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Unless they have designed an entirely new system within the month between that build and today, then it doesn't matter how much has changed. The system is STILL antithetical to WHM's basic gameplay.

    Band-aids just make it slightly more bearable.
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