Thread: Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

I'm honestly disappointed with the healer situation. SE claimed to want to balance the healers, but it seems clear that one is coming out above the rest (AST) while another seems fairly subpar (WHM). SCH sits awkwardly between the two. I was excited to hear that Cleric Stance was gone so that I could DPS even more reliably, but then I saw healers were losing a fair amount of DPS skills. Then the WHM changes were revealed and I was super disappointed. The AST changes rubbed me the wrong way, as well, because it's like SE feels they have to cater to the job just because it was weak at the beginning of Heavensward.

I have all three healers at 60, but I don't have much interest in leveling any of them right now. Mostly because I'm just disappointed in how things have gone. Especially since, unless the new content will be dishing out way more damage, healers are going to be really boring to play.To be honest, I didn't like WHM for a long time. I played AST a lot and SCH the most. But recently I started to love playing WHM and was looking forward to leveling it first in Stormblood... Until I saw the changes.

Originally Posted by Evumeimei

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We should all boycott and refuse to level our healers and/or refuse to level them in dungeons in protest! (semi-serious suggestion). If the changes are really as bad as they are come launch, it's probably the best thing to do to make them listen. I feel they really dropped the ball on this after leading us with these promises of balance, incentives, etc. I know a lot of people out there did not want another healing class, but I kinda did. I like new classes and I'm disheartened that healers are kinda getting the short end of the stick. No job, no balance, hell at least the tanks get another mount =/

Originally Posted by Mahkii

Just dropping by for a daily reminder to the SE devs - why would raiders bring a WHM when we could have The Balance and Chain Stratagem?

And reliable mitigation!

Originally Posted by Reiryuu

We should all boycott and refuse to level our healers and/or refuse to level them in dungeons in protest! (semi-serious suggestion). If the changes are really as bad as they are come launch, it's probably the best thing to do to make them listen. I feel they really dropped the ball on this after leading us with these promises of balance, incentives, etc. I know a lot of people out there did not want another healing class, but I kinda did. I like new classes and I'm disheartened that healers are kinda getting the short end of the stick. No job, no balance, hell at least the tanks get another mount =/



And reliable mitigation!

Don't get me started about addle. Playing healer without Virus/Disable feels way less tactical.

Just dropping by for a daily reminder to the SE devs - why would raiders bring a WHM when we could have The Balance and Chain Stratagem?

I'm just going to finally throw a post onto here just to include my own feedback towards S-E.

I'm personally okay with the currently known WHM design. While I understand the current known information contradicts the current optimized healer play, the idea of having a small cure snow ball into larger cures and abilities is appealing. To me, Cure proccing Confession, Lily, and/or Freecure which then leads to more effects and decision making trees that WHMs can do at lower cost and knowing how to optimize the randomness of the WHM kit for both the fight and player aptitude definitely has it's draws - very similar to how optimizing for Card choices for AST was good before "BALANCE OR NOTHING" hit the table.

My main gripe is less about White Mage in the currently known iteration and more about the potency numbers and buffs AST is getting. When I first saw the White Mage tool kit, I wasn't excited but I was most certainly intrigued by the thought of it and wanted to wrap my head around how to optimize the work. But then I saw the AST changes and it basically just crapped all over the other healers - why play WHM (or perhaps even SCH) when AST can do things better and be much more streamlined at the same time?

While I would like to see minor tweaks to the Lily system, I would prefer much more if S-E can start to scale back what AST has to offer. If the currently known potencys and tooltips go live, I would absolutely lose faith in the S-E dev team at their ability to balance Healers effectively.

/FeedbackSent~

On a positive note, anyone else feel like WHM will be the best healer for 4-man dungeons? I think the off-cooldown heals and aoe damage potential/sustain will work out great for that.

Originally Posted by Mahkii

On a positive note, anyone else feel like WHM will be the best healer for 4-man dungeons? I think the off-cooldown heals and aoe damage potential/sustain will work out great for that.

WHM is the best 4-man dungeon crawler, but it's because of Holy and nothing else really.

Originally Posted by Kitfox

WHM is the best 4-man dungeon crawler, but it's because of Holy and nothing else really.

Disagree with that. Holy is huge no doubt, but assize, asylum, regen , medica 2 , tetra and benediction are huge too. And they all work well together.