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  1. #1
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    Exiled_Tonberry's Avatar
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Because neither of them rely on it. It's not a central mechanic, it's a mild nice-to-have bonus if it happens. Much like freecure.

    lilies is just trash all around. If you really want me to go into the details on why I can, though I imagine most people are tired of hearing about it by now.
    You know what's really bad about this? SCH and AST gets their GCD reduction as a bonus. WHM has an entire mechanic surrounding it that accomplishes the same thing.

    It's almost like they've gone out if their way to make WHM the most uninspired and boring healer to play for no reason at all. It didn't have an identity at first. And now it's identity is based around a mechanic that both other healers can do in their spare time. Lmao.
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    Crazycapn Morgan
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    Malboro
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 60
    Going to post my utility thoughts for WHM again before I go to work, and hopefully get more feedback:

    Dispel - remove basic ally debuffs or enemy buffs. With 1 Lily, enhance Dispel to remove most buffs/debuffs. With 2 Lillies, choose between party debuff removal or all enemy buff removal. With 3 Lillies, target EVERYTHING.
    Astra - One ally debuff prevention for a short duration. Thought about this some more and figure no need for this to interact with Lily system.
    Shellskin - Cast and function like SCHs Succor, but provide no healing upon cast, instead increasing party magic resistance and mitigating a fixed percent of magical damage while Shellskin lasts.
    Reflect - Act as a single ally buff to reflect damage back, starting at 5% for 10sec. With 1 Lily, enhance to also reduce 5% damage taken. With 2 Lillies, double both percentages. With 3 Lillies, double duration.
    Finally, the return of Shroud of Saints and Divine Seal for reliable MP refresh, enmity control and power booster.
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    Loyan Lightdew
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    Lamia
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    White Mage Lv 90
    For me, one big "buff" on White Mage is Presence of Mind can be use on Alied targets.

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    Dante Haiwindo
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    Ultros
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Loyan View Post
    For me, one big "buff" on White Mage is Presence of Mind can be use on Alied targets.

    i don't think it can be? I've not seen that tooltip before.
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Loyan View Post
    For me, one big "buff" on White Mage is Presence of Mind can be use on Alied targets.

    What am I missing? It still shows Range 0y and Radius 0y.
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    Imbri Undinare
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    Kujata
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Loyan View Post
    For me, one big "buff" on White Mage is Presence of Mind can be use on Alied targets.
    Range 0 = self only =p It's the same PoM as ever.
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    Kethic Zachrias
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Loyan View Post
    For me, one big "buff" on White Mage is Presence of Mind can be use on Alied targets.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reiryuu View Post
    Range 0 = self only =p It's the same PoM as ever.
    Target-able PoM would be amazing though. Make PoM and Thin Air target-able. How's that for utility?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kethic View Post
    Target-able PoM would be amazing though. Make PoM and Thin Air target-able. How's that for utility?
    no. i refuse. Thin Air is our only new Toy. i'm not giving that away when i can use it for DPS to kill stuff since all we can do is kill stuff and hope we help kill it before it kills the tank and group.
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    Kethic Zachrias
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Saraphin View Post
    no. i refuse. Thin Air is our only new Toy. i'm not giving that away when i can use it for DPS to kill stuff since all we can do is kill stuff and hope we help kill it before it kills the tank and group.
    You are 100% correct. I am sorry for suggesting it.
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cupcakesu View Post
    They removed Stoneskin because they wanted to regurgitate it back to us as a new post-60 skill that costs Lilies, evidently.
    "Darn, I can't think of anything else to give WHMs....Hey wait! Didn't they say they wanted their old Stoneskin back? Hahaha, we'll give them their old Stoneskin back alright!"
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