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  1. #1
    Player
    Exiled_Tonberry's Avatar
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    White Mage Lv 100
    You know. What I don't understand is, why did SE decide to fix PLD issues, Monk issues, but completely ignore WHMs. Do they think it's fine as it is? That's extremely hard to believe.

    Sigh. This sucks.
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    Lucidia Dreamweaver
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 70
    WHMs have the right to be upset right now:


    Our job action trailer is one of the worst to be shown (2 shared actions, Aero 3, Aero 2, Stone 4, some cures, only the water barrier thingy is somewhat interesting).

    Yoshida's comment of "Bolstering WHM's focus as a Pure Healer" (Paraphrased).

    1 of WHM's key defining skills - Divine Seal is relegated to shared actions and Yoshida did not even address this in any way shape or form, which in turn caused players to wildly speculate.

    All of the above AFTER Yoshida have promised us they'll look into healer and tank balance. (To be fair, it seems they did manage to deliver half of it based on feedback regarding Paladins, unfortunately WHM is the undelivered part).


    That being said, complaining will not help at this stage of the development, so let's be the better person and wait impatiently for SB to drop for our final verdict.
    And if the verdict is as what we feared? Then that's the time for us WHM brethren to rise up and campaign for change in 4.1.
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    So, let me get this straight. You're saying that WHMs aren't allowed to complain about anything because they aren't bad to the point of exclusion just yet?...=/
    Why would you purposely ignore something that's bound to happen? We all see it coming. WHM can't survive off pure heals in a game where others healers match that healing level just as good, if not better, while offering more to the raid.
    Why sweep this under the rug and pretend it's OK until WHM is excluded from PF and isn't allowed to join savage? I mean hell, the later part is already taking place.

    Yet YOU have a low opinion of US because we aren't going to sit on our thumbs and not do anything until our job is destroyed. Lol OK.
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    I mean hell, the later part is already taking place.

    Yet YOU have a low opinion of US because we aren't going to sit on our thumbs and not do anything until our job is destroyed.
    Are you aware of what the term "self fulfilling prophecy" is? It's used to refer to a phenomenon in which one person's undeserved fears or worries serve as a catalyst to cause the very thing of which they were fearful of. There have been dozens, if not hundreds, of threads from WHM mains espousing how they're inferior to the other healer jobs and demanding change for a job that really didn't need them in the first place. In addition, said exclusion didn't even begin to start happening until several months after the first two or three dozens threads were posted. When one is constantly pushing an idea of inferiority, they really shouldn't be surprised when their own words come back around, because they always do.
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    Yorumi Eienyuki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Are you aware of what the term "self fulfilling prophecy" is? It's used to refer to a phenomenon in which one person's undeserved fears or worries serve as a catalyst to cause the very thing of which they were fearful of. There have been dozens, if not hundreds, of threads from WHM mains espousing how they're inferior to the other healer jobs and demanding change for a job that really didn't need them in the first place. In addition, said exclusion didn't even begin to start happening until several months after the first two or three dozens threads were posted. When one is constantly pushing an idea of inferiority, they really shouldn't be surprised when their own words come back around, because they always do.
    This is the most illogical post I've seen yet. I'm sure the only reason warriors do more damage than paladins is cause they believe they do and people post about it too? Am I right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorumi View Post
    This is the most illogical post I've seen yet. I'm sure the only reason warriors do more damage than paladins is cause they believe they do and people post about it too? Am I right?
    My point about WHM exclusion only happening after months of WHM mains whinging about not being god tier




    Your head. But hey, let's throw out unrelated comparisons that have nothing to do with the topic at hand to pretend we know what we're talking about. <3

    The healer forums in particular have always been a delightful spot for a quick chuckle. You guys know how to keep the comedy rolling~
    (3)
    Last edited by Thunda_Cat_SMASH; 05-25-2017 at 05:57 AM.

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    Momoko Tomoko
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    Sargatanas
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    Miner Lv 100
    Seems like it will just be the vanilla healer. Most boring animations, and most boring skills. However, since new healers would probably flock to WHM first they probably want to keep it boring and simple so they aren't overwhelmed. Just sit and heal basically, until the healer gets good enough to micro a fairy or deal with cards...
    (1)
    The tiniest lala.

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    Luna Faye
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    It reminds me of 2.x all over again. Do we all remember those times as the pf and static recruitment looked like this? (SCH/SCH). For me personally, since I don't main healer anymore, all I can say is, at least I do get butterflies and that's all that matters to me, but I do hope for the people that actually get enjoyment out of the whm, that someone looks into that and will make some changes, if it turns out as bad as it currently looks like. I know how it feels when you main something and love playing it, and then someone breaks it, thinking it's better for the balance or whatever reason and you'll find yourself having to switch to a other job, that you don't enjoy very much.
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    Orthio Irvin
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    None of us actually have any idea how the whm toolkit or feel are going to turn out but as expansions are added and hp totals rise surely pure healing is going to become more useful anyway.
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    Kyle Drew
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    Omega
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Lmao so many people thinking the sky is falling. It's like complaining that the entree is undercooked when you're only on the appetizer
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