Thread: Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

I apologize if this has been brought up before, but I didn't read the mass amount of replies as I'm using my phone.

I just wanted to point out a few situational points that would make this update a nonfactor to WHM play. When gear capped for A9/A10, a WHM can solo heal the fight with regens, tetra, and bene and go back to DPSing. This update will effectively give nothing (besides so more mana from thin air) in situations like this. When 90% of your new expansion revolves around 2 spells that you dont need to use in order to do the content, it feels really bad.

I've mained WHM for a while and have found that most content can be healed through with regens and the oGCD heals. Allowing you to contribute to DPS with most of your GCDs. You only really need cure1/2 if you dont feel like DPSing, are undergeared, or have no defensive CDs being used. Except for prog, you really wouldn't be spamming cure1/2 enough to merit the system to revolve around them.

Originally Posted by Virlym

When gear capped for A9/A10, a WHM can solo heal the fight with regens, tetra, and bene and go back to DPSing.

lol are yout talking about savage?
would you happen to have a video of yourself solo healing a9a10s with only regens and tetra + bene?

Originally Posted by Virlym

When 90% of your new expansion revolves around 2 spells that you dont need to use in order to do the content, it feels really bad.

Shoud I mention Emergency Tactics and Dissipation from Scholar for Heavensward expansion ? 2 skills I rarely used because it was just for extremely urgent situations.
So, to me, I got only 3 new spells for my Scholar during 3.XX.

I know, it should'nt happen again and for any job.
But keep in mind, if you feel WHM it's first job to see that happen, you're wrong.
SCH got it before.

Originally Posted by dark494

I agree, that may change for the better. I just find it somewhat hypocritical of people decrying RNG anything as the worst thing ever when both of the other healers have had RNG mechanics in their kit since their inception and people think they're the best things since sliced bread, critlo is amazing, cards are amazing, except when rng doesn't give you a critlo or gives you nothing but ewers and spires for days, but I've never seen anyone really call for sweeping revamped changes to both jobs because RNG is a terrible idea. I fully expect it, but that doesn't mean I agree with it.

RNG for a 20% balance (or 10% AOE balance)
RNG for a shield that can mitigate more than half the Tanks maximum HP, and more than a DPS' max HP.

RNG for a 15% single target barrier. Or 12 seconds off Assize (at max value).
Do you see it yet?

Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry

RNG for a 20% balance (or 10% AOE balance)
RNG for a shield that can mitigate more than half the Tanks maximum HP, and more than a DPS' max HP.

RNG for a 15% single target barrier. Or 12 seconds off Assize (at max value).
Do you see it yet?

Don't forget that AST has ways to mitigate RNG (Redraw) or make use of bad rolls (Royal Road, Minor Arcana). SCH shields will still function fine if you fail the crit roll. Failing the roll on WHM locks you out of the systems (meaning you can't use half of your new skills) and the rewards if you DO succeed are so minor there's hardly any point even having them.

Originally Posted by IttyBitty

Don't forget that AST has ways to mitigate RNG (Redraw) or make use of bad rolls (Royal Road, Minor Arcana). SCH shields will still function fine if you fail the crit roll. Failing the roll on WHM locks you out of the systems (meaning you can't use half of your new skills) and the rewards if you DO succeed are so minor there's hardly any point even having them.

Seriously. Even if we had ways to manipulate our RNG much better, the rewards is literally Stoneskin and an AOE heal that only effects certain targets.
The AOE especially makes no sense. How often,if ever, do you spam cure on a DPS? And if you happen to, what are the chances they'll actually benefit from the AOE heal afterwards? I just can't wrap my head around what SE was thinking with any of this.

Originally Posted by SakiKojiro

Personally I'd have liked to see them go all the way with the "Pure Healer" Route. Giving them even bigger bursts of healing while gimping their damage a bit.

I don't get the eagerness to give up power. There isn't anything inherently wrong with asking for good tools and not offering to give something back.

If we were talking trading some extreme advantage in one area for viability in another, I'd get it from a balance perspective, but come on.... This is asking to trade one of the Job's few perks for more of something it already has in abundance.

WHM doesn't need even bigger bursts of healing; it needs mechanics that are fun, make sense, and add unique value.