Thread: Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

First off, thank you for listening to our feedback, it's nice to know we're not just shouting into the void.

There are two main problems right now.

Firstly too much was removed from WHM, first we lost Stoneskin I & II but we also donated five of our abilities to the 'Role Abilities', that's seven abilities just straight up gone. Sure, we can get five of them back but if we just go and take the five WHM abilities...we're still losing the five 'Role' skills we should have. I understand about trimming the button bloat but we are now a full ten abilities behind the other two healers (counting cards and fairy skills). We would gladly donate Fluid Aura and Repose for more useful utility skills if we absolutely have to keep our button numbers the same.

Secondly the RNG just...no. We should be able to plan our cooldowns like every other healer. Lilies need a chance to proc off of all our heals not just two of them, Confession needs to be stacked until used and easily granted to multiple targets, otherwise Plenary is rendered a weak tank heal. An easy and thematic way, anyone who stands in Asylum should be granted a stack of confession. The Lilies themselves...the cooldown reduction they currently give is just underwhelming and triggered by so many things that if we are lucky enough to proc a Lily we're never going to notice it's effect.

Overall, I think WHM would have been better with a gauge that filled slowly as healing was done. For every X damage healed the gauge slowly would fill, emptying when we were out of combat. You could have left in that cooldown reduction, just based it off of how full our gauge was and let us choose if we wanted faster casts or if we needed to cast Barrier on everyone to absorb damage or empty our gauge to grant everyone full stacks of confession to use Plenary. There are so many other ways you could have taken it that would have had better synergy.

Originally Posted by Levy9

<.< Do you mean Earthly Star? I'm pretty sure that Earthly Star has a 200 damage potency, fully charged, unless there was another translation error. Assize has a 300 damage potency. How is it that Earthly Star does more damage to one mob than Assize will across three? Also, Assize's 300 potency heal across the entire raid plus Asylum on four people is way more healing than a 900 potency Earthly Star heal to one target.

I am specifically speaking of the extra Assizes/Tetras/Asylums/Benisons based on Lily procs. If you cast every one of those on CD, with 3 Lilies, you end up reducing the CD to the point where you cast 6 in the time you normally cast 5. In the time it takes you to get an extra 2 Assizes, 2 Benisons, 2 Tetras, and 1 Asylum, the AST gets to cast Earthly Star 10 times. The WHM gets 4800 healing potency/1800 damage potency from 2 Assizes, 1600 from 2 Benisons (assuming it's worth about 800 potency on a tank, which seems ballpark-accurate), 1400 from 2 Tetras, and 3200 from 8 ticks of Asylum on 4 people, and double checking my math, that's actually 11k healing potency which is more than the 9k potency from 10 Earthly Stars, though the Earthly Stars still win on damage potency. That said, the odds of you getting 3 lilies on every single oGCD are mind-bogglingly bad. If you are casting 5 cure/cure 2s between every oGCD ability, the odds of you getting a mere TWO lilies on every ability over a ten minute fight are less than the odds of me picking up a grain of sand, throwing it into the ocean, wandering to a random beach 50 years later and picking up that same grain of sand. It is about a .000000000000000000007% chance of getting even a consistent 10% reduction. That's pretty freaking not good.

Originally Posted by Levy9

Why are confessions a 80 potency supplement to Cure/Cure 2? Confessions let you instantly cure the target(s) for either 400/500/600 potency depending on the number of stacks. It's more like having another Tetra available from a Cure proc, except with AoE potential.

Confessions are an 80 potency supplement to cure/cure 2 because there's only a 20% chance to get one on cast. That means if you cast 5, you'll probably get one. If you are heal bombing, you can somewhat regularly expect them to come up. It's an oversimplification, because A) you aren't guaranteed to get one, B) if you get more than one they are only worth 100 additional potency, and C) they are usable based on the CD of another ability, which is both good and bad. It's good because you could conceivably delay using one if your CD is/will be up and you don't need the healing this second but will in the next 30 seconds, and it's bad because if you need the healing NOW but just used PI, well, you don't get the healing.

Also, confessions have NO reliable AoE potential. In order to hit more than two targets, i.e. the tanks, I have to have Cured at least 3 targets, i.e. the tanks plus somebody else, in the last 30 seconds AND gotten a 20% proc on each of them, meaning realistically I'll have needed to Cure them multiple times, and then after that all of them and nobody else needs to take damage at the same time, because if somebody needs healing confession doesn't help me. I'm not saying it's impossible for a raid mechanic to benefit from that, but it's REALLY REALLY niche and basically would have to be specifically designed for Confession and even then, since Confessions are so unreliable (TWENTY PERCENT CHANCE ON CURE) and difficult to track, you'll probably just use a Medica instead because in the likely event that they didn't all proc or you didn't REALIZE they all procced, you need to keep people not dead.

On the other hand, the tank is a good target for confessions because A) you'll probably cast a few Cures on him if the damage intake requires it, and B) he'll probably need more healing within 30 seconds of any given Cure. If there's a mechanic where tanks both take damage for extended durations, you can even swap with your cohealer after you get your first confession proc and hope to get a second on the other tank. It's not the worst design assuming we need to cast a lot of Cures. It sucks if we don't, of course, but that goes without saying.

As long as Astro has 20 percent balance and can heal as much as whm with 10 percent bonus to sects, whm will never be needed for raids again there is no reason. Whm is useless now. Astro can heal better then whm or sch heals and sheilds are better. Whm is not balanced at all. Astro will always be taken over whm until I hate to say it you make whm as needed.

There is no reason to play a whm or even a sch when you can be an ast. If you know how math works, the quicker the boss dies, the less healing you need.

The messed up thing is Ast even heals better and provides damage buffs, literally zero reason to play any healer except Ast.