Thread: Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

Give 'em a protect II with a juicier defensive % and they'll have all the raid utility they need?

As a White Mage main, my problems with the new abilities are the fact that everything procs off Cure I and Cure II which I try to use as little as possible. It would be much better if they proc'd off regen ticks, since I try to use regen and medica II to do the work for me. Also, the idea of having the level 70 move work off confession stacks seems to negate the entire usage as an aoe heal, since I will unlikely use cure I or cure II on any party members and save those for the tank.

Plus, the AST Divine Star move is ridiculously overpowered 900 potency aoe heal? Since WHMs are the kings of aoe healing, it seems like something of that flavor and/or potency should've been put on whm instead. Even assize is only a 300 potency heal! It seems like the new moves introduced made ASTs even more superpowered, and made WHM even less desired in raid content.

I haven't read through all the posts on this thread, so if this has been suggested I apologise..

But an ability that granted 3 lilies on a cooldown (1 minute perhaps) may help alleviate the RNG of the lilies.

Saying this, likely it will be used to reduce the CD on assize since they would line up, but I feel it could be beneficial to the class and hopefully not imbalanced.

Any thoughts?

This new lily system will only serve to confuse new players. It procs off of cure 1/cure 2, but any white mage will tell you that your straight cure spells are really just for clean up after damage spikes, the white mage identity in FFXIV is regens. If anything the lily/confession system should proc off of regen/medica 2 ticks. It'll show new players what they're strongest tools are.

The lilies are very difficult to earn, but their effect is underwhelming. The lilies could've been the perfect tool to give white mage some utility. The confession and lily stacks could work in tandem, we could have multiple skills like plenary indulgence, perhaps a damage buff move that could scale on confession for how long it is, but your lilies for it's strength. Having a damage attack that would scale off of lilies would be nice too, I can imagine a move called flower storm, an aoe attack that consumes and scales off of lilies. The lilies should make the player feel powerful!

Can we have some of those abilities back? Why take away Stoneskin and Stoneskin II? Why put Esuna, Shroud of Saints, and Divine Seal on cross-class? Why not do anything with Repose?
Lilies and Confession stacks seem like they going to be pretty important moving forward so can we have more consistent way of generating them? Thanks for clearing off my hotbar but we're going to need to use up all the cross-class slots just to get the abilities that used to be inherent White Mage abilities back.

This lilly system really makes you wonder if any of the devs actively raid in this game or understand how their jobs are utlized optimally in a high end setting...

Make the lilly system proc off of any healing GCD/offGCD and make it effect the personal DMG of the next cast offensive magic spell by the WHM.

If you don't give WHM some type of DMG utility, you will 100% kill this job in any level of longevity. This isn't FFXI, where you could justify a job being awful just because its different.

They just need to rework the lilies values/procs/features. I actually like new abilities they just need to get some values or features to them. I'm more into playing whm after ast>sch of course for SB than I'm to play it as it is now xD Whms always were ranting about the RNG of Ast Cards skills/Fairies/Adlos crits and now they get RNG and rant about it xD .
Even tho this is good if they take these "feedback" I'm a bit concern if they grant whm a wishlist it might be to long like someone saying about sch and ast have way more abilities and such than a whm when I feel whm is great for how straight foward it is for most making it complex or with so many gimmicks like the fairy or the cards might turn into a backslash. Some want lilies to boost dps when of the 3 whm is the most raw/burst dps overall. For me the perfect fit will be rework de lilies into a moderate way(to proc higher raw healing overall) raise the raw healing potency and lower regen potency to give Ast a higher HoT potency.