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    Choco_Breeder_Twirly's Avatar
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    Cloudy Twirl
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    Exodus
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    Miner Lv 90
    I only leveled all my crafters b/c my FC is a bunch of lazy fluffs and dont properly work on Workshop stuff. Personally i can't stand the crafting system in this game. Granted it's different by a long shot from any MMO i have ever played but my main issues are this.

    Why (just like Gathering classes) is Ironworks an 100% OVERMELDED MUST to make some items yet it's Lower Ilevel to Augmented Scrip gear? That to me is just illogical at the max.

    A issue im hopping is going to be fixed the same way the actual fighting classes are is Cross Class abilities. Though it doesnt matter all that much now that i'm lvl 60 in everything anyways.

    My bigger issue is the amount of RNG that is put in to crafting. If RNG dictates i can completely fail trying to make an iron ingot wearing full overmelded Ironworks. If nothing else Ilevel for gear in crafting should make it so you have less chance to fail at low level crafts. Only way i can think to explain it is like how Desynthing is calculated.
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    Minerva Nakts
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    Coeurl
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    Weaver Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Choco_Breeder_Twirly View Post

    My bigger issue is the amount of RNG that is put in to crafting. If RNG dictates i can completely fail trying to make an iron ingot wearing full overmelded Ironworks. If nothing else Ilevel for gear in crafting should make it so you have less chance to fail at low level crafts. Only way i can think to explain it is like how Desynthing is calculated.
    There are a lot of RNG free abilities available for those and ultimately, your results in crafting are 95% user dictated. RNG plays a much smaller factor than a lot of players think.

    It isn't at all like melding or even gathering.
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    Last edited by MN_14; 06-05-2017 at 11:36 AM.

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    Song Sparrow
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    Balmung
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    It is absolutely impossible to fail to HQ even level 60 crafts with fully melded Ironworks if you even sort of know what you're doing. Even 1 or 2 star, I haven't NQed in ages unless I did something wrong. You should have enough CP by then to use Basic Touch with Steady Hand up for all of your quality increases, which is a 100% successful quality increase. (I still have to use Hasty on starred crafts but I can still do enough to even out the RNG).
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    Last edited by Elamys; 06-05-2017 at 12:00 PM.

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    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

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    Caimie Tsukino
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    Zalera
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Choco_Breeder_Twirly View Post
    If RNG dictates i can completely fail trying to make an iron ingot wearing full overmelded Ironworks. If nothing else Ilevel for gear in crafting should make it so you have less chance to fail at low level crafts. Only way i can think to explain it is like how Desynthing is calculated.
    No offence, but if you're a level 60 crafter wearing Ironworks gear, while using Hasty Touch for making any level 1 to level 59 recipe items, then you're doing it all wrong.
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

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    Exodus
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    Miner Lv 90
    dont get me wrong i dont fail these synths but just a bit ago before i got hasty touch i was trying to crafting something simple (i dont remember what it was) and i had 10 fails in a row... not including things like Ticks of the Trade or Satisfaction... it was bordering rage inducing
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