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    Kethic's Avatar
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    Kethic Zachrias
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    I have to agree with the general sentiment. I'm watching my wife play through the story of 2.X, and most of the s*** they make the player do is rage inducing. I dareday 75% could be considered filler content, and that's only in the MSQ.

    From the other perspective, I have to assume there was a design requirement for certain number of quests at certain levels that give certain amount of experience. Progression planning and all that. When you have plot milestones that don't line up with progression mechancis, you get the 2.x MSQ.

    It would be nice if they could write a more robust storyline going forward.
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    Krokov Reynall
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    I just have one question how does this benefit players as a whole what about those who like it the way it is are there voices to just be tossed aside?
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    Momomi Momi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krokov View Post
    I just have one question how does this benefit players as a whole what about those who like it the way it is are there voices to just be tossed aside?
    It's not going to change things for you if you've already done it. This is for new players.
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    It's not going to change things for you if you've already done it. This is for new players.
    I think they were saying imo that devs so focus on stuff that benefits everyone as a whole and not just a certain group, ex. new player or people that play alts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    I think they were saying imo that devs so focus on stuff that benefits everyone as a whole and not just a certain group, ex. new player or people that play alts.
    The benefit is player retention. A lot of players feel like giving up at around 2.1, and some of them do. Then they get to 2.5 and are happy they stuck with it.
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    Rugiada Brightdawn
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by delukard7 View Post
    I started a new account and i understand why most of my friends quit this game before even entering Heavensward.
    Also Jobs shouldn't have been walled like this.

    There has to be a way to avoid this without paying (story potion) because this would look intentional.
    You can skip every cutscene, and this makes the levelling very fast.
    Go at location-> NPC -> skip -> teleport -> kill -> return.

    Jump potions are a cancer, right now I meet players who don't know nothing about their job (rotation, cooldowns etc), and they leveled and made parties with that job.
    What can I expect from an instant 60?
    If "you" (a generic person who wants this kind of feature) don't like levelling and learning your job and be involved with the story, please unsubscribe, because your lack of experience will be a pain for a party or a raid.

    btw without the main story ff14 is really cheap. What do you do, 2 dungeons and 4 raid bosses per week? Come on...
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    I have 10,000 needles,
    I'm not a weaver,
    and I'm not scared to use them.

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    Aya Hamada
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Gyactus View Post
    You can skip every cutscene, and this makes the levelling very fast.
    Go at location-> NPC -> skip -> teleport -> kill -> return.
    Jump potions are a cancer, right now I meet players who don't know nothing about their job (rotation, cooldowns etc), and they leveled and made parties with that job.
    What can I expect from an instant 60?
    If "you" (a generic person who wants this kind of feature) don't like levelling and learning your job and be involved with the story, please unsubscribe, because your lack of experience will be a pain for a party or a raid.

    btw without the main story ff14 is really cheap. What do you do, 2 dungeons and 4 raid bosses per week? Come on...
    It is still unbearable, esp with this:


    You have to keep going to spots like that without teleports. If it was just once or twice it shouldn't be an issue but it does it over and over and over again, it is very tedious. But I think I am done with this with the negative feedback. It does not matter what you think, it is very unwelcoming to new players. Have fun in a desert in the future if you wish, I don't, and why I am commenting like I am.
    TWO WEEKS! on level 50 quests, give me a break.
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    Last edited by Hamada; 05-22-2017 at 01:39 AM.

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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    It is still unbearable, esp with this:


    You have to keep going to spots like that without teleports. If it was just once or twice it shouldn't be an issue but it does it over and over and over again, it is very tedious. But I think I am done with this with the negative feedback. It does not matter what you think, it is very unwelcoming to new players. Have fun in a desert in the future if you wish, I don't, and why I am commenting like I am.
    TWO WEEKS! on level 50 quests, give me a break.
    So the complain is that people have to travel in the open world?
    Teleport to Dragon Head, not even 30 sec riding time to Whitebrim
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    It is still unbearable, esp with this:


    You have to keep going to spots like that without teleports. If it was just once or twice it shouldn't be an issue but it does it over and over and over again, it is very tedious. But I think I am done with this with the negative feedback. It does not matter what you think, it is very unwelcoming to new players. Have fun in a desert in the future if you wish, I don't, and why I am commenting like I am.
    TWO WEEKS! on level 50 quests, give me a break.
    Ok I can see people saying they want SE to trim the fat when comes to MSQ and filler quests but when it just comes to traveling that just people be lazy "omg I can't just teleport to the other location that in the same zone"
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    Ama Hamada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    There are people out there that think the game is just fine how it is, so it comes down to personal opinion whether it will make the game better or not.
    Does not matter, and you did not respond to my main point.
    People tend to resist change no matter what it is, so a self reflection on that is advised.
    When people quit over an issue, it passes the line of "just fine with how it is"
    It is resisting change of being selfish in that view, and I like the game to grow, not shrink.

    "Why can't I find parties to do xxx now"
    Oh i doono maybe because you put pressure on SE of not to change something in the game that blocks new player motivation?
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