Page 1 of 7 1 2 3 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 70
  1. #1
    Player
    OMEGA_HACK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    1,260
    Character
    Altrage A'uli
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 90

    The mystery of the missing Region

    Okay another post, and I know they are redoing the maps, but the geography as a whole should stay relatively the same (the continent isn't going to drastically alter its shape, it might get some tweaking but I doubt it will be a "new" continent) That being said I have a picture I compiled for your viewing pleasure SE, that I've provided below.

    First I would like to explain what the image is about. The Red lines are basic guidelines to where the continent actually outlines (I've included the missing northern part of La Noscea as well). The Green Lines are "approved" (approved just meaning the zone makes sense; save for the visuals on the boat ride it makes sense) zones lines. The Blue Lines are "questionable" zone lines... It mainly has to do with the Black Shroud as you can see. The zone line into Coerthas from Black Shroud has a fairly large gap between it...why? And the biggest thing you might have already noticed is the glaringly large portion of missing land when you zone from Black Shroud into Thanalan...

    If you take your peepers to the world map you'll notice there is a Region named "Paglth'an" more than likely this zone should've been the "plains" zone...giving sense to the Plainsfolk Lalafell that were said to have made homes at...So my question is...what gives? Why the missing zone? And when you do the map remakes are you going to make this "zoning" portion make sense? I would love to know the answer to this...and please don't say we "take a long tunnel"...

    Now I understand that the more Northern parts of the map (and possibly the Cape below Ul'dah) to be for future expansions. That makes sense. So I obviously didn't include them into the outline.

    Here is the photo I promised.

    So yeah...what's up with the missing region? No current lore explains this...so I would like the official word of SE to clarify if you can find the time. Thanks~
    (10)

  2. #2
    Player
    Betelgeuzah's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    3,083
    Character
    Captain Lalafist
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 82
    Uhh, why exactly can't Thanalan continue all the way to Black Shroud?
    (0)

  3. #3
    Player
    OMEGA_HACK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    1,260
    Character
    Altrage A'uli
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 90
    Did you click the image? lol you can clearly see that it doesn't connect. Part of Mor Dhona touches the Eastern side of the Strait, just as Thanalan does. which implies the fact that Thanalan is directly below Mor Dhona in terms of placement. (See: World Map for references) That being said there is an entire Region missing between Thanalan and Black Shroud. Or that there is just a massive chunk of "zone" we cannot traverse...which makes me a little sad
    (8)
    Last edited by OMEGA_HACK; 12-10-2011 at 05:25 PM.

  4. #4
    Player
    captainpicard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Posts
    297
    Character
    Captain Picard
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Your picture has the by product of illustrating how utterly ridiculous the world/zone design is in this game. I have never seen it all connected up like that. I truly hope they fix it.
    (9)

  5. #5
    Player
    OMEGA_HACK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    1,260
    Character
    Altrage A'uli
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 90
    oh I know. I always had--in the back of my head--the notion that the world was horribly put together (and I don't mean the copy/paste terrain) I mean the geographical layout, as you can see.
    (2)

  6. #6
    Player
    Betelgeuzah's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    3,083
    Character
    Captain Lalafist
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    Did you click the image? lol you can clearly see that it doesn't connect. Part of Mor Dhona touches the Eastern side of the Strait, just as Thanalan does. which implies the fact that Thanalan is directly below Mor Dhona in terms of placement. (See: World Map for references) That being said there is an entire Region missing between Thanalan and Black Shroud. Or that there is just a massive chunk of "zone" we cannot traverse...which makes me a little sad
    I see your made-up map with made-up proportions.
    (2)

  7. #7
    Player
    Seif's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    2,706
    Character
    Seif Dincht
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 72
    "uh oh... the release date is approaching! Damn let's cut one whole city to ship it in time! Still not good enough let's cut 30% of the entire game and we should at least get boxes on store shelves in time." *investors do highfives*
    (11)

  8. #8
    Player
    OMEGA_HACK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    1,260
    Character
    Altrage A'uli
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 90
    You can scale it anyway you like....while my scale is not 100% perfect I am within the 85%-100% range in scale, if you'd like I can make a massive 200,000x200,000 pixel image...but you can try to justify it ANY way you like...unless you can magically make Thanalan become 3x as wide without making it drastically off scale from the rest THANALAN WILL NEVER MATCH UP TO BLACK SHROUD AND MOR DHONA.

    Sorry to bust and bubbles...not to mention we are missing an area named PAGLTH'AN. Actually to just further the poor direction of the geography of the game. we are missing a TON of those named areas on the world map...For example...why is there no sea on the Black Shroud's Eastern side? Where is Rothlyt? Where is the Cape below Ul'dah? Where is the Northern side of the La Noscea region? To may partial areas...the main point of this thread was for the map reform people. I just want them to be aware and not make the same mistake of poor geography.
    (9)

  9. #9
    Player
    Betelgeuzah's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    3,083
    Character
    Captain Lalafist
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 82
    It is quite simple. Tilt Thanalan slightly northeast and the black shroud slightly southwest. Problem solved.

    When it comes to maps the horizontal and vertical consistency of the explorable landmass is kept, that doesn't mean they are the same way when it comes to the continent as a whole.

    Compare the world map with Thanalan's in-game map. The western shore should tilt southeast much more than it currently does.
    (1)
    Last edited by Betelgeuzah; 12-10-2011 at 07:06 PM.

  10. #10
    Player
    OMEGA_HACK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    1,260
    Character
    Altrage A'uli
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 90
    Are you sure on that?

    Scaled FFXIV World Map

    Official FFXI World Map

    Compiled FFXI maps

    Those all fit fine...I would just like to point out both XI and XIV were produced by the same person therefore I would assume the maps to be map in the same manner. Also there is a compass on those maps and they dictate which direction is north..why would it have north as the top of the map when its really skewed? Shouldn't the compass then be skewed?

    Also I don't understand why it so hard to understand...there is clearly a missing Region named Paglth'an to the East of Thanalan.
    (14)

Page 1 of 7 1 2 3 ... LastLast