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    Is a seperate auction house stil being worked on?

    What i mean is an auction house like model completely separate from the market wards being worked on or planned, because correct me if im wrong but the new 'ah' that i had heard was being worked on and would be appearing in 1.20 is just a buy it now feature with an avoidable gil sink which, not to change the subject, makes me feel like i have to go into the physically rendered wards if i want to buy anything other than several cheap crafting mats to avoid tax and isn't even globally connected. It seems like creating a separate entity with a two-way unavoidable gil sink would have been a better option and would have solved several of the problems facing the current market wards much better. I understand if at this time it is too difficult to create such a feature and it cannot be implemented until separate player storage is created but it seems like the current plan is just placing band-aids over the current system in order to charge for retainers at a later date when, not to speak for everyone but, it seems like most people prefer a clear separation between storage and selling. Just to reiterate I understand that this may take time to implement and may be currently in progress but some clarification would be helpful, thank you and sorry for the long post.
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    Captain Lalafist
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    The end result will be a mixture of the retainer system and an AH.

    Creating unavoidable gilsinks sounds horrible.
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    I do like Selling and Storage to be completely separate as well...kinda makes me upset to have them both together...imo.
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    Captain Picard
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    Also just wish they would implement a straight up and down auction house and say adios to the retainer system
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    Altrage A'uli
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    I agree again lol. But that doesn't mean to scrap the Retainers. I feel they can have use as Bazaar searching merchants (I've made a post about this previously). But that seemed to get negative light from the community--too complex, a pain, etc..--so who knows D:>
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    i dont think the market wards should be completely scrapped although i admit that if thats what eventually happened i wouldnt notice, what im saying is i dont see a way to link all markets with the way you enter the ward ad still have them be stable, i feel instead like what suggested above you should just remove or reduce the tax on retainers and have them be a psuedo-bazaar and in reference to unavoidable gil sinks being horrible, thats exactly what taxes are, maybe if i explain what im thinking of it would be clearer what i mean by a two way unavoidable gil sink.

    What i see as the best option is to have a separate storage space to keep your items plus an ah like system be it blind bid or directbuy that is completely separate from the wards and globally connected where you would have perhaps a 5% tax on selling and a 5% tax on buying or just a 10% tax on one or the other either way is essentially the same, and the separate wards tax system would be abolished in favor of a flat tax that is noticably less than the ah on items sold in all wards. for example instead of battlecraft/upper/lower wards you would just have wards1/2/3 and the search would remain. whereas the planned implementation makes me feel as if im being forced to use the current wards as its human nature to avoid tax of any kind no matter what the ammount.

    Let me just say this as well all gil sinks should not be unavoidable some convenience should have a price on it but when the gil sink is placed on a feature that is standard as well as avoidable people are going to want to avoid it. And when the way to avoid said tax is to use an archaic form of buying/selling over an industry standard i feel that is a poor implementation.
    Again sorry for the long post but i feel its best to be as explicit as possible so as to avoid confusion.
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    Last edited by wolp; 12-10-2011 at 06:58 PM.

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    Seif Dincht
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    I just want one clean AH that is all.

    To me it's much easier to manage my inventory when all the stuff is one clean group not scattered into sub-folders all across Eorzea. This is why I loved the /storage /mogsack /whatever function even though XI didn't manage to keep all the items in one container at least the game let me know where all my stuff is at any time.

    In XIV the whole separate inventory hassle with the retainers is the main reason why I still don't use the system. At all. It hasn't improved one bit from the launch when it comes to using the MW both ways.
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    I think come ver 2.0 we'll have a hybrid version of market ward / auction house.

    It will be in it's own zone. (to reduce lag in the city areas)

    instead of player retainers selling items, I think we'll have NPC merchants inplace of AH windows.
    If you're looking for weapons you go to the weapon vendor,that NPC will list all the weapons being sold by players.

    Retainers will still act as mules to hold all our stuff. But I don't think in ver 2.0 they will be a big part in buy/selling of items like they are currently. Maybe they'll act as an interface for selling stuff to the AH, like you select items to put up for sale and they will deliver them to the AH system.
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    Move retainers to housing for storage. Make a real AH.
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    Kanikou Escaflowne
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    Real Auction House? As in going to a place like in Treno in FFIX and bidding on items against other players in real times? Or a real Auction House as in going to a search counter and buying from it -- because the update to the MW that allows as such essentially turns it into a 'real Auction House'.
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