5 reasons why PS4 players need a parser in game

[Kosmos992k]

I usually agree with most things you say kosmos but on this one parsers make so much different its crazy

I am not saying that parsers or similar tools are unhelpful in raiding situations. I am saying that to be a decent player, you don't need a parser or similar tool, you just need to care about actually doing well. Like any tool, a parser is only useful to those who a) know how to use them, and b) want to use them. The vast majority of players who want to improve will do so with, or without such tools. For non raid, non EX, non Savage content, parsers and damage meters are not needed. Players who want to do better will, players who don't or simply don;t care, won't.

Personally I don't have a problem with personal performance measurement, though I don't believe that it is necessary for 90% of the game. I do not agree with any form of group parsing or public parsing, ultimately these tools which really only have a place in true end-game content could easily be (ab)used to berate people in the other 90% of the game in wholly inappropriate manners, and so I believe they are not needed. But that's my opinion, and that's where I stand.

[Sebazy]

Parsers in and of themselves do nothing but tell you your crit rate if you missed and how many times you missed and overall dps number with no context. FFlogs is what provides that context so unless SE teams up with fflogs or makes their own version a parser will do nothing for you.

Going to politely disagree there, parsing has been around in various forms since BCOB, long before fflogs was a thing. Like it or loath it, these parsers were an essential ingredient in figuring out optimal play for some jobs given the hassle factor with tracking dot damage.

It doesn't even need to give an actual number tbh, just a simple ranking would be enough to give players some kind of feedback on their performance.

[bswpayton]

I don't see how, however minor, the lack of a helpful tool wouldn't be a disadvantage. You have a metric that, at the end of a series of practice or theorycraft test rotations, can tell you which is superior. That contributes to mastery.

Admittedly, a relative potency parser with crit rate factored across all hits would provide more usefully consistent results, but the parser is still a valuable tool, .

And lets be honest alot of players whom use them also have the advantage of triggers that allow you to know when something is coming this is basicly and in game guide.

[floofuf]

Most of the things you've said on this issue

It seems to me that you're not really arguing anything. Yes, you could learn your class and rotation without a parser, but it does help quite a bit. Some people need help, and a parser can provide them with it. I don't know exactly what a parser does as I am also a PS4 player, but from what I've read from other people it seems to be a really useful tool, and it's unfair that PS4 players don't have the ability to use it to. While we can learn our classes and rotations without parsing, to actually maximize your damage and timing you will probably need a parser.

[Kosmos992k]

And lets be honest alot of players whom use them also have the advantage of triggers that allow you to know when something is coming this is basicly and in game guide.

In my day, we called that cheating. Remembering that cheating is usually defined as somehow gaining an unfair advantage over other players, and what you describe appears to meet that definition.

I should add, I am not saying you or anyone else is cheating, however leaning on the crutch of a 3rd party tool to tell you how to play, what to use and when is not a display of skill it's a display of the ability to follow orders.

[bswpayton]

I am not saying that parsers or similar tools are not .

toxic players are gona be toxic regardless, parser or not i mean do you not constantly see the no bonus in the party finder. There is already division in the game but considering how many people want them I dont understand why SE refuses to accommodate especially when in pvp they tell you your damage, Ive never had one person comment on me in pvp and I suckkk at pvp.

SE needs to give more options , you honestly have no clue how well you are doing personally without a parser or how bad your doing for that matter let those who want it use them. I wish they would come around , but I mean it seems when they make a decision its usually final look at how many people hate wm, or how many people hated the diadum weapon, or how many people dont like the datacenter move. They sometimes act like that mean stubborn parent that just want accommodate what their playerbase wants.

To my other comment I mean I dono Act isnt legal I guess so I guess the use of triggers would go under the same category ha. Cheating to me would be if you are in competition with someone but you cant compete with players in this game aside from pvp.

[Sebazy]

I am saying that to be a decent player, you don't need a parser or similar tool .......

I don't believe that it is necessary for 90% of the game.

The difficulty of this game right now is pretty much the root problem behind this, parsing isn't necessary because quite frankly, you can clear 90% of the game mashing 1 button. I don't think that's a good thing =(

[Kosmos992k]

The difficulty of this game right now is pretty much the root problem behind this, parsing isn't necessary because quite frankly, you can clear 90% of the game mashing 1 button. I don't think that's a good thing =(

Tell you what, if you think you can clear the game all the way from ARR to SB in level appropriate gear starting at level 1 and only using the gear you collect along the way with just one button during combat, I will believe you, otherwise, nope - you're vastly overstating the ease of the game.

I should emphasize that since this is a gauge of the game's difficulty, being carried by others nullifies your claim also.

To my other comment I mean I dono Act isnt legal I guess so I guess the use of triggers would go under the same category ha. Cheating to me would be if you are in competition with someone but you cant compete with players in this game aside from pvp.

That's like saying that completing Rubik's cube by following a guide isn't cheating. You may not be cheating others, but you are cheating yourself.

[bswpayton]

The difficulty of this game right now is pretty much the root problem behind this, parsing isn't necessary because quite frankly, you can clear 90% of the game mashing 1 button. I don't think that's a good thing =(

what other mmo is any different people always say how easy this game is , but when I watch videos on other games I always see sayin wow and this game have some of the best raids around.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Yes, the basic advantage of parsing is trial-and-error work, which is less time-efficient than simply looking up a guide and following its timings and priority systems, but the work done there informs many of the considerations I think you'd agree are highly useful, and mitigating the chance of flawed assumptions therein.

That's effectively my point there. Parsing makes doing that easier. But it's not impossible to do without. Tougher maybe, more time consuming, definitely, but as I currently can't parse, what am I to do? Sit back and wait for others to do everything then tell me how to do it?

I'm not trying to step on any toes here, but if you're playing on either platform and waiting for others to tell you how to do things, that's pretty bad.