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    5 reasons why PS4 players need a parser in game

    As a PS4 player I feel that I'm at a disadvantage especially in endgame what I'm asking for is adding a parser to be used only to check our own DPS not to judge others in the party and here I'll to point out why PS4 players need a real time parser in game. Endgame content depends heavily on DPS if you do good you are rewarded by skipping mechanics if you don't do enough DPS you might hit enrage or see more mechanics that can cause a wipe, if endgame is designed around our DPS we can't just pretend like its not important. So here are my reasons:
    1- Every group that raids have at least 1 parser working even if its technically not legal but SE knows players are using parsers and they are not doing anything to stop them.
    2- Raid groups always ask for parses when they are looking for members.
    3- Using "Stone, Sky, Sea" only helps you if you are learning your job and your rotation, we all know DPSing in a fight is way different.
    4- Getting better at endgame and optimizing DPS require having a parser running to see your DPS while mechanics are happening, asking your friends or party members about your DPS after the clear won't tell you what you have to work on (I'm talking about small things not messing up your rotation).
    5- Not everyone is comfortable enough or willing to help a PS4 player know their DPS so asking others is not a solution.
    If you are a PC player you get to use a parser but if you are a PS4 player you don't get to do that we pay the same amount of money to enjoy this game and endgame is a big part of it, so unless they change how endgame works players will keep using parsers and we will stay at disadvantage, just to be clear I want to be able to check my own DPS to get better if others don't care enough or don't raid they don't have to worry about this.
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    As a PS4 player, I think you're grossly understating our abilities here.

    While being able to know exactly what you're doing damage wise will always help, learning and perfecting your rotations and having a very good understanding of your job (and the synergies of your team) can go a long way too. Not every static asks for parses either. In the past, I think only one had me try out, but knowing I was on PS4, they did the parsing themselves, and I had no issues besides, again, because rather than pushing for hard numbers, I pushed instead for mastery of my given job at the time. It also needs to be said that if any static is going to assume less of you for being on a console, or is only interested in hard numbers, you may want to reconsider if that's the right static for you. No one is going to hit the same numbers every time, 100% of the time.

    We are not handicapped players in this game simply by being on console. Yes, I'm all for anything that can help any player learn and improve, but we've got to stop thinking of ourselves at a disadvantage first. How do you get those big numbers? Perform effective, proper rotations. All the information is out there, and experience IS the best teacher. And you don't need a parser just to know what to do.
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    I never said PS4 players are worse because we don't have a parser or that statics don't accept us, what I'm saying here is that we need a real time parser to get to a certain level above knowing your rotation or doing mechanics and PC players have that which is not fair to us and we have the right to ask SE to add it.
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    You said we're at a disadvantage and I say we aren't. Especially when you consider that parsers are still technically against the TOS. Doesn't mean anything at this point since usage is so widespread and KNOWN, but my bigger point is that if 2 equally geared players - PC and PS4 - perform the same rotation with the same timing and technical expertise, the PC player isn't going to somehow magically do it better simply for using, or even having access to a parser.

    Now if there's perhaps some mechanical or game-based limiting factor that perhaps prevents a console player from doing exactly what the PC player does, despite an equally matched level of capability and effort, THEN that's an issue. But while I don't discourage wanting to find ways to perform better, I'm also not subscribing to the idea that I'm at a disadvantage purely for what I choose to play on. Not after how hard I know I work to perform well.
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    Not happening according to the developers. You can read the 1000 threads on the issue but they've made it clear they don't want one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Not happening according to the developers. You can read the 1000 threads on the issue but they've made it clear they don't want one.
    At the beginning of ARR they said they were going to add it so we should keep talking about it until they listen to us.
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    Parsers in and of themselves do nothing but tell you your crit rate if you missed and how many times you missed and overall dps number with no context. FFlogs is what provides that context so unless SE teams up with fflogs or makes their own version a parser will do nothing for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ailith-D View Post
    At the beginning of ARR they said they were going to add it so we should keep talking about it until they listen to us.
    Except when they have said no several times, the only thing you do is start to annoy them. Like pestering a parent after being told no, the usual response is to go from being told no to getting in trouble, now I doubt you'll get banned for asking but you just end up with developers getting asked this question at Q&As and they respond with an eye roll or a quick brush off and move on to the next question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaFox View Post
    Except when they have said no several times, the only thing you do is start to annoy them. Like pestering a parent after being told no, the usual response is to go from being told no to getting in trouble, now I doubt you'll get banned for asking but you just end up with developers getting asked this question at Q&As and they respond with an eye roll or a quick brush off and move on to the next question.
    The thing is we are paying them money so they don't get to say no unless they want to lose customers..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ailith-D View Post
    The thing is we are paying them money so they don't get to say no unless they want to lose customers..
    They... don't get to say no when it comes to developing their own game...
    I'm sorry, this post was both really irritating and entitled to read.. and hilarious at the same time.
    If you're going to drop out over a lack of parse, bye.
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