5 reasons why PS4 players need a parser in game

[SpookyGhost]

Any argument against personal parsers is, frankly, stupid.

It would literally harm no one to be able to see how much damage you, personally, are doing per second. Then you can just have a letter grade or w/e to tell you how good you are doing when you wipe or even as the fight goes on. This does nothing but give the player more information that will better help them improve as without a number they've no idea how far off they are from where they need to be.

I also don't buy the argument against parsers in general. We already have them, PS4 players just can't use them. People apparently don't realize it, but you don't need to say "you are being kicked because you are doing garbage DPS" - you can just say "you are being kicked because you are under performing" (or you can literally say nothing and kick them). We would literally gain no toxicity from adding parsers to the game, if the game were to be toxic with a parser then it already is. The only thing adding a parser would do is give everyone the same level of information and probably increase the skill of the playerbase since now people actually have useful information.

[RubyCirha]

As a ps4 player I'm against this oly cas it will be abused and used to shame others it already happens with pc players not often but it dose so let's not
And I overall feel it's unessasary mostly cas we already have stone sea sky witch tells you pretty clearly if you can clear what ever content it's set to that's good enough all parsers do is give you hard numbers to your dps witch is then used to boastabout how high your numbers are or shame others

[akaneakki]

the tools are there for both ps4 and pc, ppl need to stop asking for the damm parser and use the tools they have in they hands to improve, yoshi say hundreds of time NO, parser is a pretty toxic tool, jerks still go to be jerks with or without thats true, the thing is dont let the jerks multiply and thats is what parsers do all the time.

Wanna know something? There are far more jerks without parser, who call people shit, but they actually underperform by 50% or more. A parser would help againt's this too

Also when people mean shaming; Does it mean someone told you, that you underperformed and you took it the hard way? Or did they tell you, that youre totally shit etc? If last one, report them, I've reported far more people without a parser and they are jackasses and think they do well but they don't. Then if someone told you that you underform without being an ass about it, sorry to say, you are just too sensetive and need to fix that. If a person tells me I'm doing bad, I would listen to advice or look up guides. If someone told me I was shit, I would obviously fix myself, but it would obviously be nice if people actually give me feedback on how I play, not spitting it on me. This is why we have GM's in this game. You report them and that's it. I see soo many people provide screenshots where there is absoluttely NO shit talk, no harm or anything towards other players and yet they find it offensive? My mind is really blown. I would actually be afraid telling people on game or the forums what I eat etc, because it might offend them, knowing they might not like the food I eat lol.

[shao32]

Wanna know something? There are far more jerks without parser, who call people shit, but they actually underperform by 50% or more. A parser would help againt's this too

i go to tell you something, i main DRK but for raid things i was to do A12S with my second main monk, i learn my rotation reading my tooltips and testing my self in sonte sky..., the dummy of my fc house and dungeons adapting my rotation to the incoming mechanics (in fact im a player how prefer leveling on dungeons bcs there is where i learn to do my job and see if im underperfomming far better that any other place), i play on pc and the only time i see my numbers in a parser only show me what i already know, being top dps of the run.

parsers are a knife, you can use it to cut you bad habits or to stab it in the players neck with a kick, idk you but i play other MMO where they have oficial parser and the comunity exigencys are pretty toxic most of the time, there is a lot of jerks as you say underperforming but they are a lot more waiting to have a legal form to spit on others face, so no matter what im with yoshi, western comunity need learn how to help each other and have mutual respect and stop, the mentor system is a proof a parser go to be a lot worse.

second part i dint see

you know i meet players how underperforming too in my runs, dragoons dont using blood of dragoon, blm doing bad, ect, stop the run and start to explaing the jobs mechanics are pretty agresive from my point of view and i dont know the player mood, instead of that i preffer let the player know he is underperfoming and watch vids and use stone sky can help it to be a awesome X job if he want, just to let it know, what he do is depend of hem, im not a player how expect every one do a super excelent work with they job, i always ready to adap my self, so thats why no matter what role i play i never find or get those salty moments as many ppl presumes to have.

so what is better? have jerks how are underperfoming but even if you know they never go to change you know they never how to be able to clear hard content? or have a parser and let the players have free reasons to insta kick everyone how dont meet they dps exxpectations adding even more chance to get salty moments in every place? idk you but for the 1º one you have already tool to dealt with it, all depend of the comunity, for the other one no matter what you do, when the toxic actitudes around parsers infect the game is for ever and you cant remove it no matter what.

[YitharV2]

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If you watch Yoshi-P's response (see clip), his argument is that people will ask you and it will lead to fighting. He's also worried that people will use it to figure out how to make it show party DPS. I'm not sure if I 100% agree with his arguments, but those are his arguments.

It's true people are already toxic without parsers, but I can see an actual parser just making the toxicity worse. I don't think the toxic PLD was parsing as he didn't seem to actually know who needed to be kicked, but if he knew he probably would've either kicked them or spewed vitriol at the person with the lowest DPS. And that's not exactly fair. I was crap at my job when I did Bismarck. OTOH, a parser would've probably shown that he and his ninja friend weren't as hot as they thought. The thing is not everyone parses because it's an add-on tool. But for the people who do parse, I think things wouldn't change that much.

[akaneakki]

but they are a lot more waiting to have a legal form to spit on others face, so no matter what im with yoshi, western comunity need learn how to help each other and have mutual respect and stop, the mentor system is a proof a parser go to be a lot worse.

Legal way to spit on others faces? I will say it once more again. Being offensive is still offensive. If someone tells you that you underperform in a nice way, it's not spitting or offensive, simple as that. You say that western community needs to learn how to help each other and have mutal respect. My BF comes from asian culture and he plays with tons of asian players as well in other games and also in FFXIV. What did I learn from it? Respect goes both ways. In japanese/asian culture, if you look at korean/japanese servers even chinese, they ONLY join, knowing they will actually do well, in fact also only join knowing the whole fight too. On western servers as you call them, doesn't do that. What respect is that towards 6-7 other players? Respect? Again goes both ways. If someone joines my group for farm and I KNOW he underperforms, I will tell him/her what to do, as in should look up guides, gives them tips and so on, if they can't deal with it, well that's their choice, but respect the fact I don't want 1 player or 2 wasting other peoples time. People needs to stop thinking giving advice is such a bad thing. You seen it everywhere, forums, reddit and on the game quite a lot. Giving tips to players or asking a simple question; why don't you use darkaside? You get ''you shut up or I tell you how to play'' You call this respect? C'mon.

And let's be honest here, there is bunch of wannabe mentors in this game, most doesn't even know how to play their main class. The real ones are the ones who stay in silent, because they are afraid they get shit on their face for helping someone.
And it's also stupid to say that western community needs to get better, when the actually ones at fault are those who proclaim themselves good to the community but actually build toxic attitude towards others. A parser will tell them (without others telling them) how they perform. This way they know how they perform and they have options: Stop calling people shit, when you know how you perform, get better or simply both. Even if you get better, you have no right to talk shit towards others and this is what soo many people in this forum and game in general been saying.

How about starting to help people and then you will see what I talk about.

Also I know people who plays games with official parsers too. The % rate of people getting better is higher, especially in a combat heavy game such as Blade & Soul. That game requires shitton of dps and they have a parser now. It's funny how many people on this game use a parser but barely few of them actually harras people. Why? Because it's offensive to harras people. What's so hard to understand that?

but if he knew he probably would've either kicked them or spewed vitriol at the person with the lowest DPS. And that's not exactly fair. I was crap at my job

But if he was going to be an asshole towards the person, if he had a parser, you simply report him. You see, people join groups and expect others to do their job, this is totally unfair. There is a lot of silent kicks these days and it's sad how true it is.. Serveral reasons is because they either in denial they do bad, they simply think it's offensive when someone tells them ''hey you are behind on the rest, but I'm more than willing to help you out with rotations and such or send you a guide'' Who is to blame when this becomes offensive? I'm myself afraid to help people out, unless I know them well, other than that I will keep my self shut. Want to know why mentors, the very best ones are quiet too? Same reason as mine. Eeverything is freaking offensive today.

[MidnightTundra]

Parsers are bad for the game. I do just fine without them.

,':^)

[SpookyGhost]

If you watch Yoshi-P's response (see clip), his argument is that people will ask you and it will lead to fighting. He's also worried that people will use it to figure out how to make it show party DPS.

Only a fraction of the community would need to ask someone for their numbers (the ones on PS4), and then only a small fraction of that fraction would actually do it. I think that small percentile of people isn't worth denying the rest of us on PS4 useful information. Also if anyone's going to figure out how to make it show party DPS it's going to be the PC community and they won't because... they already have ACT.

[YitharV2]

Only a fraction of the community would need to ask someone for their numbers (the ones on PS4), and then only a small fraction of that fraction would actually do it. I think that small percentile of people isn't worth denying the rest of us on PS4 useful information. Also if anyone's going to figure out how to make it show party DPS it's going to be the PC community and they won't because... they already have ACT.

Well like I said, those are his arguments, not mine. To him he probably doesn't think it's worth it for the small percentage that would ask. And I agree as well.

[shao32]

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re read my post i whrite more bcs i miss the second part of you post, and i say "mutual respect" with that means respect in both ways, so please relax.

second you talk about bad aptitudes about players how dont want to lear, is rue i never say we dont have those ones, but you are avoiding the matter as you find toxic bad players you can find toxic elitist players, bad actitude is in both ways lady, from elitist and underperfoming players, parser allow this elitist jerks being more jerks in a legal way, and if we take the "parsers go to improve all performance" thats means the bad underperfoming jerks go to be better and being more jerks that before.

parser is a damm number, a number how dont say absolute nothing new to you, you have already direct tools in the game to perform yourself, its the player actitude in every skill level how need to change not add more and more tools to harras eachother, parsers harras has being proof being a lot worse and have more negative impact in many players that any bad actitude you can find now, i know how japan and asian comunity works in general, we work diferent but not necesary worse at exception of the bad actitudes, i actually enjoy the actual comunity of the game, compared to wow and others this is the heaven and i dont want this heaven turns in a elitist hell.