Page 11 of 14 FirstFirst ... 9 10 11 12 13 ... LastLast
Results 101 to 110 of 191

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Ul'Dah
    Posts
    4,349
    Character
    Kosmos Meishou
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    Almost as hilarious as you thinking switching to pc and using a parser made you better.
    Ooh burn! But accurate - imho.
    (3)

  2. #2
    Player
    Ailith-D's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    13
    Character
    Ailith Dyre
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    Almost as hilarious as you thinking switching to pc and using a parser made you better.
    Having a parser won't magically make you a better player, using a parser to know where you are failing and working on that makes you better.
    (9)

  3. #3
    Player
    Jetstream_Fox's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Posts
    747
    Character
    Syvic Zivota
    World
    Seraph
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Ailith-D View Post
    Having a parser won't magically make you a better player, using a parser to know where you are failing and working on that makes you better.
    You realize a parser doesn't teach where you are going wrong, it just shows you the number, you the player, not the 3rd party software, still need to explore how to make that number higher. The software doesn't scream "HIT THIS SKILL, THEN THIS ONE, AND THIS ONE, THEN THAT SKILL." It doesn't promote your skill, you already have to have the want to perform better.
    (1)

  4. #4
    Player
    MomomiMomi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Posts
    2,527
    Character
    Momomi Momi
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    You realize a parser doesn't teach where you are going wrong, it just shows you the number, you the player, not the 3rd party software, still need to explore how to make that number higher. The software doesn't scream "HIT THIS SKILL, THEN THIS ONE, AND THIS ONE, THEN THAT SKILL." It doesn't promote your skill, you already have to have the want to perform better.
    But if you don't have that number, you won't know that you need to make it higher. A lot of people think they're good, only to enter a raid with someone parsing them and find out, to their horror, they're doing 50% of the dps they should be.

    That's the point where a lot of players have to not just try to do a little better, but completely re-examine what they're doing wrong.

    Others are not quite as extreme. They think they're reached their peak, and they're good, but they compare to someone else's parse and find there's still room to improve. Or they try doing something slightly different and see if their dps goes up.

    I'm sure most people who actually care to improve would improve with a parser.
    (6)
    Last edited by MomomiMomi; 05-22-2017 at 01:37 PM.

  5. #5
    Player
    Jetstream_Fox's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Posts
    747
    Character
    Syvic Zivota
    World
    Seraph
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    But if you don't have that number, you won't know that you need to make it higher. A lot of people think they're good, only to enter a raid with someone parsing them and find out, to their horror, they're doing 50% of the dps they should be.

    That's the point where a lot of players have to not just try to do a little better, but completely re-examine what they're doing wrong.

    Others are not quite as extreme. They think they're reached their peak, and they're good, but they compare to someone else's parse and find there's still room to improve. Or they try doing something slightly different and see if their dps goes up.

    I'm sure most people who actually care to improve would improve with a parser.
    Your second statement proves exactly why a parser doesn't help, YOU NEED TO KNOW WHERE YOU ARE WRONG. The software is only going to give you a number, it doesn't tell you the rotation, it doesn't tell you the mechanical aspects of a fight, and it doesn't account for raid synergy. I'm completely down with anyone wanting to improve, even I know I can do better, but a parser isn't going to help me improve in every aspect of this game, its not going to give me detailed tips on a class, or understand boss fights. There is 3 areas one needs to be good at in order to succeed in this game, their rotation, fight knowledge, and communication, and guess which two are not able to be increased with a parser, and happen to be the more important of the three areas of success.
    (1)

  6. #6
    Player
    StarRosie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Location
    Ul'Dah
    Posts
    566
    Character
    Sakya Malha
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    Almost as hilarious as you thinking switching to pc and using a parser made you better.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ailith-D View Post
    Having a parser won't magically make you a better player, using a parser to know where you are failing and working on that makes you better.
    Or you could just use Stone, Sea, Sky and practice to a mirror shine without a parser. That works too.

    I'm starting to think this feverish desire for a parser is becoming less about the 'benefits' it would give and more cause people are being told "No, you can't have an official parser." But they really, really, really want it and won't take no for an answer.
    (1)
    Last edited by StarRosie; 05-22-2017 at 10:30 AM.

  7. #7
    Player
    Ailith-D's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    13
    Character
    Ailith Dyre
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by StarRosie View Post
    Or you could just use Stone, Sea, Sky and practice to a mirror shine without a parser. That works too.

    I'm starting to think this feverish desire for a parser is becoming less about the 'benefits' it would give and more cause people are being told "No, you can't have an official parser." But they really, really, really want it and won't take no for an answer.
    I'm guessing you didn't read anything in this post or you don't raid because DPSing in a fight is different and any raider knows that so go back to reason #3 and #4.
    (6)

  8. #8
    Player
    StarRosie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Location
    Ul'Dah
    Posts
    566
    Character
    Sakya Malha
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ailith-D View Post
    I'm guessing you didn't read anything in this post or you don't raid because DPSing in a fight is different and any raider knows that so go back to reason #3 and #4.
    Oh no, I read your post. I don't agree with it. You don't need a parser to improve. You just need the drive to improve. Stone, Sea, Sky is perfectly fine for practicing and examining your rotations and how effective they are. Also, there isn't much to practice, all needed info to optimize your job is readily available online for you to read and mimic. If you wanna practice and improve on your own and create your own style though? Stone, Sea, Sky is perfectly fine for this. You killed the dummy in 90 seconds, now kill it in 75, now 60, now 45. That's how I trained and I see no complaints about my DPS in raids. And I regularly play with at least 2 people who use parsers and have never heard a peep from them about my damage.

    Again, its feeling more and more like people want a parser now cause they are being told they can't have it and refuse to take no for an answer.

    And I love how you assume things about me just cause I'm not jumping on the parser band wagon.
    (2)
    Last edited by StarRosie; 05-22-2017 at 11:55 AM.

  9. #9
    Player
    Tigerlilley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Posts
    508
    Character
    Tiger Lilia
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by StarRosie View Post
    And I regularly play with at least 2 people who use parsers and have never heard a peep from them about my damage.

    And I love how you assume things about me just cause I'm not jumping on the parser band wagon.
    So... you're relying and basing your argument on the fact you play with people with parsers who can see if your SSS practice is working and would let you know otherwise?

    FWIW, I'm not bashing SSS. I think they were a welcome implementation to the game.
    (4)
    Last edited by Tigerlilley; 05-22-2017 at 12:53 PM.

  10. #10
    Player
    Lambdafish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Location
    Ul-Dah
    Posts
    3,927
    Character
    Khuja'to Binbotaj
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by StarRosie View Post
    Oh no, I read your post. I don't agree with it. You don't need a parser to improve. You just need the drive to improve. Stone, Sea, Sky is perfectly fine for practicing and examining your rotations and how effective they are. Also, there isn't much to practice, all needed info to optimize your job is readily available online for you to read and mimic. If you wanna practice and improve on your own and create your own style though? Stone, Sea, Sky is perfectly fine for this. You killed the dummy in 90 seconds, now kill it in 75, now 60, now 45. That's how I trained and I see no complaints about my DPS in raids. And I regularly play with at least 2 people who use parsers and have never heard a peep from them about my damage.
    I once raided with someone who boasted about their SSS numbers, and they were good, they knew their rotation. However, in raid, their numbers were worse than mine (the PLD). SSS doesn't translate into a battle situation very well. It's nice that you can practice on SSS and be good in raid, but the two don't equate, you are missing phase knowledge, dodging, mechanics, and interruptions to your rotation that all affect your final damage output.
    (4)

Page 11 of 14 FirstFirst ... 9 10 11 12 13 ... LastLast

Tags for this Thread