Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
Accepted or not, it happens now on daily basis.
Still doesn't mean it's the best method, and I don't really recommend recommending it to new players.

Of all my jobs, I had potd'd just NIN, SCH, and now WAR, everything else leveled old-school-way, not by choice but simply because potd did not were in game. But still am for it, because a number of reasons:
I have also PotD some jobs. However, I do not play them nearly as well as I think I would if I had chose to level them in a more paced/different manner. Anecdotal, but so is your experience.

- Your weapon is the most importante piece of armor of all the game, and potd gives you a i255 weapon, and if your skills aren't top (raiding, ex primals), you'll never get that level of weapon anywhere;
Weapon may be important, but if you're a tank with a i255 Kinna and i150 NQ gear, healer swill not like you too much. Especially when you try those Big Daddy pulls that better geared tanks do. Ultimately, all gear, I feel, can be equally important for some jobs, tanks especially. I have healed tanks with i215 body pieces in Dun Scaith. Their 260 sharpened relic isn't going to save them from Diabolos Hollow's auto-crits and tankbusters, no matter how many cooldowns they try to pop.

Also, you can get ilvl 255 weapons from Sophia Ex, which is probably the easiest and most forgiving of the Heavensward primals. So saying "You can't find a 255 weapon anywhere else" is just false.

- if you return to MSQ after you are 60 with that weapon, all and everything is quite more easy and speedy to complete;
Still wasted experience. A ton of wasted experience. The MSQ, while it may be lengthy, isn't particularly difficult. You can still go through it at the same pace at level if you skip cutscenes than you can breezing through the MSQ at 60. None of the quests or solo instances are so hard that you need to be level 60 with a 255 weapon to complete them (aside from the fact that they sync you down anyways).

- about learning, if someone whants reach 60 first and learn his class after that, it is his own choice. If you don't like that, you just don't do it. You have plenty of time for learn while doing the MSQ and all the related duties. The only whining I can see on forums is because all those people complain they want all and everyone at raiding level even when doing sastasha;
I agree that people who want to learn will do so, and those who don't care to won't. And yes, there are people who expect players to know how to do their jobs. However, most of the "whining" I see on the forums is people complaining about level 60s in Sastasha that still don't understand the very basics of their jobs (using Flash, Overpower, Tomahawk; not healing while in Cleric Stance or spamming Medica unnecessarily, etc.). The rare posts I see about elitists complaining about sprouts or new tanks failing to hold aggro against better-geared DPS are few and far between, and many of us come to the sprouts/newbies defense, not the elitists.

This comment sadly sounds like a bunch of the "you don't pay my sub" comments I see. While that's true, and while PotD-ing to 60 is someone's choice, remember that in DF, you are paired with 3/7/23 other random people. A little consideration for them is always a nice thing to have. Don't just into 24-mans and not have a basic understanding of your job, or level appropriate gear. Because it happens. It happens quite a bit. See the post in the Duty Finder thread with the DRG that was in mostly 270 gear with a level 52 NQ weapon.

- the low gear is just an excuse. NPC will sell you i150 gear when you are 60. Crappy gear as you want, but no reasons to keep gear from your level 30. Who does, is wrong.
And again, see my post about tanks in NQ i150 gear trying to progress through later level 60 dungeons, doing Big Daddy pulls, and healers having to babysit them. People are wrong to keep their poor/older gear, but it still happens.


I'm going to end my responses here, because the thread is veering off-topic, and I would rather not a debate break out in a thread that has been extremely pleasant and friendly thus far. We are both entitled to our opinions, and I just stand by mine that recommending PotD to 60, then MSQ to new players is just not a good idea.

OP, again, glad your wife is progressing smoothly. And I do appreciate the tips on the level lulls in the MSQ so I can know for future reference if someone else asks a similar question to yours. :3