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  1. #11
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    It's not just parsers that need to be sorted out. Clarity of numbers needs to be sorted out across the board, from stat weights to damage calculations. Can I please know what the hell 982 crit means without going through 3rd party means?

    Yoshi P once said that this won't be changing because he prefers players experimenting and discovering what those numbers mean, and thinks that is more fun. I'd love to see how much of the community actually agrees with that.
    This is very much a JP philosophy. You see it far more frequently in JRPGs than you ever do WRPGs. It's a silly outlook seeing as people inevitably post it all on reddit.

    Quote Originally Posted by UNDEAD10000 View Post
    I really don't like this idea because i don't want be discriminated even more for not be the best DPS (or as tank and healer) on any content when i already get quite a bit hate when i play as DRK when not using darkside all the time (yes i have huge mana issue as DRK all the time and that is why i toggle darkside on and off between battles or just not using it) and as SCH when i don't do dps all the time.

    And if they give rewards for be the best it would cause many partys in PF (or in general) would demand be the best with every role even more.

    Also if they add in-game parser then all i can do is stop playing FFXIV completely and never play FFXIV again because i'm not the best player in whole game when i can't even beat was it Alexander - The Cuff of the Son (aka. A6).
    You wouldn't be necessarily. If it remains reportable and the GMs actually follow through, all a parse (personal or otherwise) provides is information. It can be an incredibly helpful tool. Right now without knowledge of ACT has no way to tell whether they're doing good or need to work on their rotation.

    Unrelated, but do you drop Grit? You should after one or two Power Slashes because Blood Weapon provides a ton of MP. If geared high enough, you can even get away with it on trash pulls. Other then that, start rotating in more single target combos as things die to get mana back for the next pull. Don't touch Power Slash on trash. Even if something gets away from you, any good damage combo will get it back. You can also drop Darkside in between pulls if you need to. Hope some of that helps though.
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    I'll be frank, considering how "effective" proving grounds, dungeon journal, the spellbook telling what to do and in-game parsers were on wow I have little to no faith they would do anything here
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  3. #13
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    Lumielle Whisperwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNDEAD10000 View Post
    I really don't like this idea because i don't want be discriminated even more for not be the best DPS (or as tank and healer) on any content when i already get quite a bit hate when i play as DRK when not using darkside all the time (yes i have huge mana issue as DRK all the time and that is why i toggle darkside on and off between battles or just not using it) and as SCH when i don't do dps all the time.

    And if they give rewards for be the best it would cause many partys in PF (or in general) would demand be the best with every role even more.

    Also if they add in-game parser then all i can do is stop playing FFXIV completely and never play FFXIV again because i'm not the best player in whole game when i can't even beat was it Alexander - The Cuff of the Son (aka. A6).

    I remember you from a thread you made about PotD, hence I will assume that you have indeed mainly lvled in PotD which IMO is a VERY VERY bad way to level for a new player who is not as experienced with MMORPGs to begin with.
    You end up with lots of skills shoved up your throat within a short amount of time and you dont really get to try out your cooldowns and half of your skills very efficiently.

    With all due respect though, if you get so much hate, then you are doing something really wrong and its up to you to just either give up and stay that way (which means the hate is kinda justified...) or improve on it.

    There are text guides and video guides of all classes available when you google. There are dummies to practise these things on too, although for a tank, these arent really useful to practise.
    You need to run regular dungeons. And you really do need to know what your skills do and connect the dots. Having MP problems on a DRK is questionable because there are several skills to help you restore MP.

    Blood Price restores your MP as you get hit by mobs...so the more mobs you pull,the more mobs hit you, resulting in faster MP regen. Not enough? Carve and Spit recovers MP if not combined with dark arts.
    Sole Survivor recovers MP after a mob dies. You basically just put it on a mob thats gonna be killed within the next few seconds. Boom. Thats 20% of your MP/HP restored.
    You can always turn Darkside off when you are NOT busy with actual tanking...aka, you turn it off after the mobs/boss are dead and only turn it back on when youre back to pulling.
    Not using Darkside actually keeps a fair bunch of skills you could use LOCKED. That includes cooldowns that help mitigate some incoming damage.
    You can also carry some MP potions with you to help you out a little.
    I'm hardly ever playing DRK, im not really that much into tanking, but its really not as bad. But then again,if you wanna tank, maybe start with a paladin because paladin is the easiest tank class to play, has tons
    of defensive cooldowns and you dont need to keep up your MP.


    Look, I dont wanna sound harsh but after all the posts I've read from you in the past, all I remember is whining on how bad you are and cant beat a6 and are having trouble anywhere.
    That was when you were playing a scholar, I believe. My opinion is: stop lvling in potd...stop it. Its only gonna turn out bad for the kind of player you are.
    Next advice is: focus on ONE class you like and try to improve. Read guides if necessary or just really lvl a class completely without potd but start using regular dungeons from the DF.
    Read your tooltips carefully. If anyone in your party gives you advice, please listen to it and try to do it, make it work step by step. Lastly, tanks and healers have the biggest responsibility.
    Maybe it would help to play a dps class...ofc dps classes have a responsibility too, but its easier to recover if a dps dies than if a tank or healer dies.
    Maybe it would be easier to for you to get comfortable that way first.

    This game is not hard and I believe everyone who puts
    SOME effort and actually WANTS to improve, can do it. But dont expect it to be handed to you on a silver plate either :/
    If you dont want to do that, then dont expect any sympathy though. If you do, great, a lot of people,me included, actually appreciate new players willing to improve and
    many of us will gladly give you some advice.
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    Nonni Brilante
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    If this system were to be implemented, I vote that it be called the Environmental Performance-based Estimated Evaluation Numbers gauge!
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  5. 05-19-2017 09:30 PM
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    SORRY FOR POSTING STUPID REPLY AGAIN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNDEAD10000 View Post
    Also for everyone SORRY for posting STUPID reply, so just report me so i banned that i can't never post reply or new thread again and if you guys want i stop playing FFXIV now and never play it again when i'm a the WORST player in whole game that everyone HATES.

    Yeah. I won't reply to this anymore. This kind of attitude isnt gonna get you any sympathy, not from me anyway....

    What I get from this response is how youve been playing for a long time,but you did not reply to any of my advice I've given to you. So I will assume you never looked
    up a guide or really did much to improve in the first place.

    as harsh as it may sound...You dont want to improve,you just whine cos you want people to accept that youre bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
    If this system were to be implemented, I vote that it be called the Environmental Performance-based Estimated Evaluation Numbers gauge!
    I prefer the General Integrated Tactical GUI for Understanding Damage interface
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 05-19-2017 at 10:58 PM.

  8. 05-19-2017 10:02 PM
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  9. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faliandra View Post
    Yeah. I won't reply to this anymore. This kind of attitude isnt gonna get you any sympathy, not from me anyway....

    What I get from this response is how youve been playing for a long time,but you did not reply to any of my advice I've given to you. So I will assume you never looked
    up a guide or really did much to improve in the first place.

    as harsh as it may sound...You dont want to improve,you just whine cos you want people to accept that youre bad.
    And if this is how people should be expected to react if an in-game parser was added, the reports to the GM's will shoot through the roof.
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  10. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNDEAD10000 View Post
    I know Blood weapon goves ton of MP but i never drop Grit becuase if i do i ended up losing aggro and then cause wipe for nothing.
    Could it be an ilvl issue? Unlike the other two tanks, Dark Knight practically necessitates learning proper stance dancing or, ideally, never having to turn Grit back on. A general rule of thumb is to pop two oGCDs for every GCD you do. My pull rotation mostly consists of...

    http://ffxivrotations.com/pi2

    Admittedly, this varies based on encounter because I tend not to follow a set pattern whenever I pull. For EX and Savage raiding, Warriors should always pull. For a stronger aggro generation, I'll keep Grit up and do a second Power Slash combo and hold off my oGCDs. I usually only need the burst aggro lead if I happen to party with well geared Monks or Black Mages. You can also do a safer opener by following Xeno's...

    http://ffxivrotations.com/dn7

    For trash, you Unleash once per pack you pull, pop Blood Price once you've settled and Dark Arts + Abyssal Drain. When Blood Price is close to falling off, do Dark Arts + Dark Passenger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
    If this system were to be implemented, I vote that it be called the Environmental Performance-based Estimated Evaluation Numbers gauge!
    Slow clap...
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    I used to be an adventurer, but then my ping increased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ameela View Post
    I'd just like a way to know how I'm doing as a PS4 player without having to rely on friends who play on PC.
    It's kind of hard to improve when I don't even know if I'm doing badly unless the randoms I was playing with upload the run to FFLogs or something.
    As a fellow PS4 player who's curious on how I compare to other end-game players, I strongly agree with this. I firmly believe that all PS4 players that do end-game content would benefit from having parsers, even if it only showed your personal numbers. Even having something like a personal grading system when you complete a raid would a good indicator for PS4 players to see how well they're actually doing.
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