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    Oh boy, more people who never use Dissipate. I'm not sure of some people's experiences or if they don't play Scholar in extreme/savage end-game. It does have a use, but if you only do dungeons/casual content you probably will never find a situation where you need those stacks unless stuff really hits the fan. I'm a stanch defender of this skill because there are good uses, albeit niche but they can save a raid too.

    When Sephirot Extreme was prime-time content, there was a lot of damage to heal at i210+ levels. The add phase was pretty lethal if DPS wasn't so controlled but this was a great place to use up stacks and Dissipate, your MP wasn't very high if you DPS quite a bit by then. But you'd replenish in no-time and you'd get better shields for the add damage which helps the other healer not have to heal so much. By the time the phase was over you have downtime to re-summon manually.

    Fairy Swaps. There are instances where one fairy may not be the most optimal use for the entire fight. Knowing this advantage separates a really good Scholar from the rest. With this in-mind you can take advantage of Dissipate to get stacks, more potent heals, or more DPS before swapping to the other fairy. Or instead of just burning Swiftcast/Summon. Places like A6 Savage where Selene was best to have out for the first two robots to push DPS, and have a Silence if-needed. Then before Brawlers add phase you can Dissipate to get better shield and get Eos out for the rest of the fight.

    Or more current Savage, A11S having Selene out to start until Limit Cut to push DPS since AoE damage is limited, and you have Selene's Fey Caress so don't have to wipe the raid just because of deaths. If no death, just Dissipate during the phase and re-summon. Or A12S during the two adds is another prime spot, you can even pop Whispering Dawn to get regens out and Dissipate after she casts and you still have regens up with 3 more stacks. Can just re-summon during the ultimate downtime and/or do the Selene Fey Wind/Eos swap like a real pull.

    These are just a few examples. Knowing that you can pop fairy cooldowns and then Dissipate is something to keep in-mind with the Scholar toolkit. Eos doesn't have to be out for cooldowns like Whispering Dawn to continue to get it's full effects. She just has to be able to cast before she is eaten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    Oh boy, more people who never use Dissipate. I'm not sure of some people's experiences or if they don't play Scholar in extreme/savage end-game. It does have a use, but if you only do dungeons/casual content you probably will never find a situation where you need those stacks unless stuff really hits the fan.
    It is in my case. I've only done difficult content up to ARR EX primals synced where Dissipate is not available. But that isn't the reason why I don't bring it up. The reason I don't is because while only a percentage of players participate in EX/savage content, everyone runs casual content. But I do admit, I would likely be more inclined to bring it up if I participated.

    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    Fairy Swaps. There are instances where one fairy may not be the most optimal use for the entire fight...
    While true, the potential of fairy swaps is lost due to the fact that they share cooldowns, and it is one of my gripes about the job. I am also not sure if you are referring to using Dissipate as a means to fairy swap. I tend to think of fairy swaps as immediate, and after a 30sec cooldown, it is simply a summon or re-summon.

    The long cast time of fairy swaps is also troublesome. Burning up swiftcast, or losing gcds due to the cast time is hardly ideal. The most ideal situation I've found is during phase changes. One fight that comes to mind is The Aery version of Niddy. I use Eos in the beginning, and summon Selene when he leaves the arena signifying the add phase in order to get Fey Wind on everyone, which ends the phase quickly. When Estinien raises the shield, I re-summon Eos. The reason why I bring up this instance despite still not having Dissipate is to show that the most ideal situation I can think of doesn't require the skill, and it requires that I immediately summon another fairy, which Dissipate takes away.

    Dissipate in this same situation would have me sacrifice Fey Wind in favor of increased stacks and healing potency, but since pushing this phase as quickly as possible is the best way to mitigate the damage Estinien takes, Dissipate would be the less ideal choice. I'm guessing the same rings true if similar mechanics exist in endgame, but correct me if I am wrong. Fairy swapping isn't required to push the phase I mentioned, but it sure in hell makes it a lot easier. Perhaps in endgame, these DPS windows are smaller and far more helpful to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I am also not sure if you are referring to using Dissipate as a means to fairy swap. I tend to think of fairy swaps as immediate, and after a 30sec cooldown, it is simply a summon or re-summon.
    She probably refers to that, and fairy swap is often done 1. after the fairy cooldowns have just being used and 2. at a time when there's nothing going on for a while. For example, I swap my fairy with Dissipation before boss uses ultimate in A12S and before Lapis Lazuli phase in A11S. There's literally nothing going on in the fight while I slowcast my new fairy summon.
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    Yeah the Fairy Swap Fey Wind opener is best in just about every Savage floor and Extremes. The extra SkS/SpS is very good for Dragoon, Bard, and caster openers. Also helps healer DPS too since you are putting DoTs up, basically sharing the raid your utility as a Scholar. Just like DRG battle litany in a sense. All the while trading in Fey Illlumination on cooldown. It's minor, but's a DPS increase. I tell people are you doing your part to help skip Soar, or A11S Lapis? Ha.

    I still get bit triggered when I see a pug Scholar blow Fey Illlum just to try to get a better Adlo pre-pull, wasting the cooldown when Fey Wind offers more benefit. Most cases like A12S you want the Astro pre-pulling with Noct shields before they swap to Dirunal since it's better than Succor, covers the first prey hits better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    She probably refers to that, and fairy swap is often done 1. after the fairy cooldowns have just being used and 2. at a time when there's nothing going on for a while. For example, I swap my fairy with Dissipation before boss uses ultimate in A12S and before Lapis Lazuli phase in A11S. There's literally nothing going on in the fight while I slowcast my new fairy summon.
    Yep, exactly.

    I always say if you are considering Fairy Swap, always look to see if Dissipate can work to your advantage over a Swiftcast hot-swap. Like the A12S downtime, you'll likely get yourself close to full MP before the last add dies, also a thicker Succor for ultimate, and the opportunity to get another Fey Wind opener. Textbook use of the skill.
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