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    Player
    Hamada's Avatar
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    Aya Hamada
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Not entirly true, many bosses have animation delays, which is why groups dont wipe on ultima in dun scaith when supernova goes off just before he dies.
    Yes I know there is some exceptions but still odd to me how we suffer from animation lock for everything while a good amount of monsters get the damage registered before you even see the hp drop. This is how people die while trying to heal someone, they are dead before you even know to cast the heal, lusterate, etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lesan View Post
    'Only the Sith deal in extremes'. SE being the Sith confirmed?
    Why yes, yes it is, I was trying to find a way to put that reference in my quote, lol.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgpytjlW5wU
    Only the sith, mentors, and SE deal with absolutes.
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    Last edited by Hamada; 05-20-2017 at 01:44 AM.

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    Sida's Avatar
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    Sida Bajihri
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    Yes I know there is some exceptions but still odd to me how we suffer from animation lock for everything while a good amount of monsters get the damage registered before you even see the hp drop. This is how people die while trying to heal someone, they are dead before you even know to cast the heal, lusterate, etc.
    If your tank dies because you were unable to predict a tank buster, that's on you. If you didn't have tank topped at the time it hits you were not having an eye on the boss cast bar. If your tank dies on normal encounter because you were playing chicken with their health, that actually is on you as well.
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    If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.

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    Rita1989's Avatar
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    Nenemi Nemi
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 40
    Noticed Ping has dropped to 80-90 now and is being routed much better now Chi-SJ-SCR instead of NY-SEA-SJ-SCR
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    Last edited by Rita1989; 05-20-2017 at 02:52 AM.

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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rita1989 View Post
    Noticed Ping has dropped to 90 now and is being routed much better now Chi-SJ-SCR instead of NY-SEA-SJ-SCR
    That's good news, thanks for posting.

    This is exactly the kind of thing I have been saying will happen over time. I wish people would listen and be a bit more patient in future instead of rushing to judgements.
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    Light Fox
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    Midgardsormr
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    Bard Lv 70
    Before:

    PC: Montreal Quebec 165 ms. to 181 ms. // With VPN 165 ms. stable no package loses but with spikes .
    PS4:Playable not big issues

    After:

    PC: California 238 ms ~ 254 ms // With VPN 181 ms. ~ 210 ms. (until i find the best server or they made some fixes) less spikes no package loses.
    PS4: unplayable , i think its around 250 ms. or more , not sure .


    Conclusion:

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    Last edited by GayFox; 05-20-2017 at 09:30 AM.

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    Chiramu's Avatar
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    Cirra Maru
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    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Were the forums as bad as this when the West Coast players were playing with the higher ping?

    Maybe West Coast North Americans are just cooler then the ones on the East Coast as they never have been as butthurt as this.
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    Were the forums as bad as this when the West Coast players were playing with the higher ping?

    Maybe West Coast North Americans are just cooler then the ones on the East Coast as they never have been as butthurt as this.
    NAh, and there weren't any boycott threads or I quit threads either.
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    De'anair'a Solanae
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    Hyperion
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    Ninja Lv 70
    The forums was a lot tolerable way back in ARR. I almost feel I have left the wow forum to come to a smaller WoW forum. >>
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    SaitoHikari's Avatar
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    Saito Hikari
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    Sargatanas
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TitaniaZero View Post
    The forums was a lot tolerable way back in ARR. I almost feel I have left the wow forum to come to a smaller WoW forum. >>
    EDIT: Not worth getting banned over, but I want to say I agree with you, and that there's a reason for your observation that has a lot to do with the moderation here.
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    Last edited by SaitoHikari; 05-20-2017 at 05:27 PM.

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    Mature's Avatar
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    Mature Rudlum
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    My thoughts EXACTLY, someone should pin this cause I personally think that Bards are in the same similar boat as to Ninjas. I main Bard myself and I can totally relate to this Saito's findings

    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    Well, to be honest, I main Bard, probably one of the most ping-dependent classes in the game. Machinist would be in a similar boat, I'd think. People talk about Ninja lag, but I think Bard players had it a lot worse, many just don't realize it because most people ran for the hills as soon as WM became a thing and never tried to really optimize the class.

    I'd pretty much notice immediately when I go through my opener and notice I still have like 2 seconds remaining at the end to fit in an extra GCD, and the delay between activating each buff is significantly shortened AND Bloodletter doesn't really clip into things anymore. Not sure how it's like for other classes as while I've leveled virtually all of them, I haven't taken them into serious raid content.

    Uh... I actually do have video footage of sorts to compare, I stream my roulettes sometimes for possible documentation purposes. Though since I don't have Twitch Prime, my pre-transfer footage is going to get nuked soon.

    May 6 (Before Transfer): https://www.twitch.tv/videos/140620010
    May 17 (After Transfer): https://www.twitch.tv/videos/144574932

    (Before anyone asks, that's not my real raid opener, I can't be expected to use potions all the time. However, the standard roulette opener I use has actually made it really easy to see exactly how much of a difference going from 110 ms to 24 has made for me. In pre-transfer footage, my first attack tends to land with Hawk's Eye having 15-16 seconds left on the timer, whereas in post-transfer, it lands at 16-17 seconds. Already from the start, it's a big difference, for me at least. Plus my Bloodletter often clipped into things pre-transfer, and pretty much not at all post-transfer.)
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    Last edited by Mature; 05-20-2017 at 06:38 PM.

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