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[LunarEmerald]

Downgrade for Canadians.
Downgrade for east coast.
Downgrade for EU.
Downgrade for South America.
Upgrade for west coast.

No wonder they didn't want to tell us beforehand.
I should thank Yoshi for removing a job from my list of choices to play, in order to simplify my experience.

You're focusing too much on the ping. Which isn't everything. The change has removed level 3 from many people's route and that's a much more important factor. Level 3 has been the cause of countless connection issues with XIV and when the data center was in Montreal, many people had to suffer through it. If the change has removed level 3 from yours then you're going to see a huge improvement in stability and reliability, long term.

[SteadiestShark]

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I think you missed the point that I was trying to make entirely... and are still ignorant to the situation faced by EU players for FF14. It's a different beast entirely compared to your other example since they were forced onto a NA-located server from day 1, rather than making a conscious choice to handicap themselves. It was only in the last year where the EU servers actually moved to the EU region, and there were no free transfers offered to EU players playing on NA servers. Essentially, they were blindsided and had to weigh up keeping the friendships and FCs that they had spent the last few years forming, or having a better ping.

I was never telling any NA players to suck it up at any time and that was completely misunderstood.

[SteadiestShark]

Sitting at 163ms for me. In-Game interactions takes 3 secs latency, dodging stuff in Dun Scaith I have to foresight 3-5 secs in advance

Whilst I'm sure it's laggy for you, 3-5 seconds is just hyperbole....... or at least I'd hope it is. :s

[Zalleh]

As someone said before, using VPN + sub + retainers makes the game expensive to sustain, playing from Brazil. Some people use the Steam version to pay the sub and Steam's USD to BRL conversion makes the sub affordable and they also avoid taxes by doing that. Still, for us early adopters who have been playing the game since launch it sucks because we can't get that option and have to pay for all the services in dollars. As an early supporter, I got the shaft, but I chose to overlook that since I love the game so much.

As for the ping, I got excited because inside my housing ward I could do things with my opener that I NEVER could do before, but then I saw on reddit that the housing wards respond differently to player input. I tested on SSS and I am losing from 2 to 3 GCDs on openers, depending on the class. The cumulative clipping will eat several GCDs in the course of a fight, which basically destroys any plans that I or fellow Brazilians had of raiding seriously in Stormblood.

[Zalleh]

Continue:

I literally spent most of my morning crying because Final Fantasy XIV has been a huge part of my life now, but I just can't settle for being mediocre at best. Without VPN I'm getting 330ms and with VPN anywhere from 180ms to 200ms. Red Mage is my favorite class in the entire franchise and I was so excited, but my motivation has disappeared in just a few hours. Final Fantasy XIV was the only place where I felt I was good at something and I got that taken away from me just like that.

I will still give the new servers some weeks to settle and see if the situation gets better, but if they don't I am going to have to face the possibility of leaving the game. As much as it makes me sad, I just can't play a game in which I will be constantly reminding myself of how much harm I'll be doing to people that are playing with me.

[Yujika]

Prime time right now on Balmung, and I pinged a smooth 288ms.

From 90ms, just three days ago.


Does it affect me? Yeah, it does. Noticeable lag, enjoy raiding? Tough, can't do it. Good thing I like taking screenshots, because until this is fixed, (which I'm sure it will be) that's all I'll be able to do. I've had enough of reading posts saying, "This doesn't affect you." "It doesn't matter." It does matter to the people that it's happening to, so let these people air their grievances so that maybe the devs will see it, and maybe something will be done about it to suit the majority of the player base faster.

[AxlStream]

Sorry OP but this is what I considered unplayable:

That is something else... And I thought I had it bad when my actions didn't get registered into the game due to packet loss...

[DRHaymaker]

Honestly speaking unless you're a progression raider that provides top percentile numbers, it's not a big deal and it's not going to ruin the game for you.

That's not a good argument at all. You don't need to have the game to be unplayable for your experience to be soured, and you don't need to be in the top percentile to have a valid point or opinion. The game is accessible to people with multiple interests, but certain changes should only be a big deal to a smaller % of a small %? That's not smart on any level.

[Evaddaragon]

Well, since I'm from Drummondville, Québec, Canada, only an hour from Montreal, I knew I'd get screwed regardless.

I went from 11 ms ping with 0% packet loss... to 111 ms ping with 0% packet loss.

Now, as to how much I'll actually see a difference... That's another story.

[Kurando]

Although I think the relocation is in a fine place, especially as EU player on NA world, I've yet to have any issues to suggest a problem with it. But let's theorise for moment if SE actually decided to move again to please the complainers.

Such a move wouldn't happen straight away. SE would likely see how the servers would perform after Stormblood releases, not to mention all the additional improvements in the works; increased inventory space, more housing etc. Then we have to consider whether SE owns or rents the new location where the servers are, but regardless of which one it is, they've already invested and would likely give it minimum a year or two before making any thoughts on even thinking about moving again. There are also many other factors that SE would have to consider, so the whole idea of moving yet again just seems pretty ridiculous at this stage.