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[dlgc]

Well, I am in Edmonton, Canada.

My geographical distance from Montreal is about 2,978km, used to have about 75ms.

My geographical distance from Sacramento is about 1,774km, and now I have about 94ms.

I did a brief test with my BLM just now in the game, and I can see no difference in how I performed.

Cheers,
D.

[Maero]

Well, I am in Edmonton, Canada.

My geographical distance from Montreal is about 2,978km, used to have about 75ms.

My geographical distance from Sacramento is about 1,774km, and now I have about 94ms.

I did a brief test with my BLM just now in the game, and I can see no difference in how I performed.

Cheers,
D.

Glad to hear, though i am a bit further out then you, Winnipeg, Canada. Hopefully it works smoothly

[Shurrikhan]

Down from 150 to 100 without WTFast, 100 to 30 with. Sad how much I'm still losing to bad jumps even at 400 miles from the new server, down from 3000.

[Krythas]

Atlanta here. My ping went from 55ms to 84ms. Nothing to panic over.

[Saito_S]

Okay.

I can see both sides of the issue when it comes to EU players on NA servers. Yes, it was technically their decision to stay, rather than move to the EU data center (once it existed). This is true. But is it so hard to understand why? If you had friends on a server you've been on for a year or two... would YOU leave? Probably not. And now they're faced with having to leave after all, or deal with greatly increased latency. Yeah, it sucks. Perhaps there's nothing to be done about it, but it sucks, and I don't think it's fair to tell them to shut up or stop talking about it because nothing can be done, etc. It's probably true that nothing CAN be done, they're not going to move the servers again just to solve this issue. But that doesn't mean people stuck in this position don't get to express their frustration.

It's a weird issue, overall, since while EU players on NA servers now have it worse, as do South American players apparently, players in Australia and elsewhere in the Pacific now have it better. I'm sympathetic to the former and happy for the latter, I guess? And as for EU (and SA) players on the NA servers, I don't have a solution. It sucks. That's it. There is some validity to the idea that the primary concern for SE, when deciding what to do with the NA data center, is NA players, not EU players. But that doesn't change the fact that this situation sucks. I'm not sure what I'd do if I had to choose between staying where my friends are, and getting away from significantly increased ping that was suddenly dropped on my head. So yeah.

THAT SAID

US East Coast people. I'll be honest: I have a bit of a bone to pick with those of you making a huge stink about this. Your new ping is not NEARLY as bad as what a player in, say, Germany would now have to deal with. Some of you (SOME of you; that part is important!) are acting like the sky is falling and SE killed your reason to play, and going out about nigh unplayable ping... But here is the thing.

Boston to Sacramento: about 2600 miles.
San Francisco to Montreal: about 2500 miles.

It's been flipped. Now, do I think this is GOOD? Honestly, no - even though it's good for ME, being in the SF Bay Area (and a couple friends of mine who also live here and play), obviously, but in the larger sense: no it's not good. For a number of reasons, something that was more centrally located would have been better all around. It's clear that geographic location - and the consequences of that location - were not much of a factor in deciding where to go with this move.

But "near unplayable?" Come on now. That's just silly. You are now almost the EXACT SAME distance from the NA data center as WE were BEFORE the move. Whatever impact pure distance has on latency, that impact isn't new. It isn't extraordinary and it isn't crippling. It's the same as it's always been. The only thing that changed is which region is affected by it. Unless you're going to try and convince me that the entire west coast of continental North America was incapable of playing this game at a high level until May 17, 2017, then it's just not that bad. We got along fine for years, and so will you.

I'm not saying it isn't okay to be disappointed. As I said, I think a more central location would have been the better choice. But let's keep some perspective here.

[Sida]

The Chaos was labeled Europe data center way way before the move. While they resided in same location, it was still a choise to not use Europe server that already existed.

[TheSky]

Are they offering free transfers for EU players stuck on NA, like they did for NA players stuck on EU?

Because if not, then that's some messed up shit.

[Zojha]

Are they offering free transfers for EU players stuck on NA, like they did for NA players stuck on EU?

Because if not, then that's some messed up shit.

They are going to do it, but with a twist - See the "Fighting Congestion" post for reference.

They're gonna make new EU servers, then allow free transfer there. You're not going to be allowed to choose. The same will happen in other data centers as well, from what it appears.
Though I'd laugh if that was only within the same data center.

[TheSky]

They are going to do it, but with a twist - See the "Fighting Congestion" post for reference.

They're gonna make new EU servers, then allow free transfer there. You're not going to be allowed to choose. The same will happen in other data centers as well, from what it appears.
Though I'd laugh if that was only within the same data center.

That's already laughable that they're locking us to DOA servers for Stormblood.. But then again, moving the NA server to CA was already idiotic so I should've seen that coming.

[Hestzhyen]

- Primal, Aether, and Chaos used to all be in the same location
- When the split was announced, there was NO INDICATION WHATSOEVER that NA's data center would eventually be moved.
- When Chaos was moved to EU territory, players were offered a free transfer OUT of Chaos. You still had to pay to transfer INTO it.
- SE was cagey about the NA move, only saying that some groups would see their ping increase. People hoped it wouldn't be Cali since it would still be feasible for them to play if the servers were in a more central location
- We only found out at the 11th hour that EU players are shafted. They either have to move to Chaos and lose all the friends they made or suffer with extremely high ping. This is NOT FAIR to them at all.

The move is done. It's financially impossible for them to pack it all up and go somewhere different now. But SE should do a much better job of communicating to players about how they will be affected by major changes like this.