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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Actually, double weaving is apart of optimizing your rotation. Dragoon's opener, for instance, has you Heavy Thrust (Battle Litany + Internal Release) before hitting Leg Sweep. As for Warrior, I've been do the triple Fell Cleave under Berserk for a while. That being said, Ama is just whining as per usual.
    I understand that, but the ability to get two oGCD skills into the GCD gap between 2 other skills requires a fairly low latency. What I was saying is that the ability to do that would certainly be nice to have, but it's not really anticipated by the game designers as they planned the game to be playable in environments with latency up to 220ms. having a low, sub 100ms latency would appear to be an exception rather than a rule. So for those that can do it, great but I would hat for it to get to the point where the various Metas in the game started assuming everyone can handle double weaving oGCD skills between GCDs because it's highly dependent on Internet lag which is variable at the best of times. And you know how easily things can be distorted by that kind of thing.
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    Nestama's Avatar
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    I wonder how much my ping has changed... probably not by a lot because Australian on American server~
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    NessaWyvern's Avatar
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    Nessa Goddessly
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    Hey, I cleared titan ex at lvl 50 with 400 ping (New Zealander here) So surely 100ping can't be that bad.
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    Last edited by NessaWyvern; 05-18-2017 at 06:43 AM.

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    Miss Auriana
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    I am very happy with the move. I live in South East Texas and was getting 75 ms previously but was routing through the Level 3 bottleneck. Every single day I experienced packet loss which caused my mudras to mess up. I would push a mudra once and it would cast two or three times resulting in a bunny. Sometimes my combos would mess up as well. As a black mage, my ice never regened my mana and I had to wait a good 6 seconds for it to have its effect. Now I am experiencing 68 ms and have zero packet loss and none of the problems above. I can instantly summon my chocobos and retainers as well.
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    Player Vhailor's Avatar
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    Deionarra Eidolon
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    Hyperion
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    My two cents is that Ama is, as usual, going way overboard on the hyperbole. But also, as usual, there are a couple of worthwhile nuggets to pay attention to.

    The main issue with this move isn't the ping spike for some players; it's the unnecessary ping spike. Given the existing population distribution (Japanese / Oceanic players on Japanese data centres, NA and some EU on the NA data centres), it makes absolutely zero sense to relocate to the west coast, particularly without a free transfer period. It'll place unnecessary strain on the existing Oceanic community, as some will want to split to the newly-viable NA location while others won't. It'll place unnecessary strain on EU players who have been on the NA data centres up until now, because their ping just went from decent to kind of bad. And to top it all off, it will do nothing to equalize access for people in North America - because it's still on a f**king coastline.

    Is it the end of the world, as Ama is suggesting? Of course not. Was it avoidable? Sure. Were there better options? Well, barring some unforeseen explanation on SE's part, yeah, there were far better options - Chicago, Denver, Dallas, etc. Pick one.

    At the end of the day, this reminds me a lot of Ama's post about inventory space, which was similarly overblown and ridiculous. Inventory space is not a huge problem in FFXIV, but it is an issue - and SE, as usual, committed several unforced errors to worsen the situation (no currency tab for the Beast Tribe crap, criminal neglect of the Armoire, etc.). While the situation is certainly isn't dire, it's hard to overlook the fact that, were it not for SE's stupidity, it could be so much better. And that's precisely what's so frustrating about this server move - it could have been so much better, save for SE being SE.
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    AsahinaMyLove's Avatar
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    Asahina Karayami
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    I was playing with 110 since release back on aug. 2013! O_O
    Now I has 180ping and surprisly its like 97% nearly the same!
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    ArcaviusGreyashe's Avatar
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    Sikah'to Tahqa
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    Ragnarok
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    Every complainer here do sound like a spoiled child, though...

    EU players had far worse ping than "116, thanks SE, you ruined my life ;-;"until HW, including when the servers were a mess at launch (as somebody mentioned, Titan EX with 350+ ping, yay), and yet, we didn't make such a fuss...

    I still have 110 ping on EU servers, and guess what ? I can play just fine... I can double weave just fine... So basically...

    Git gud.

    Or, the more plausible theory is that you're just noticing slight changes because you want to think these changes are here... It's a psychological bias. So choose. Either most of you imagine that change, either you're too slow, and the game was just helping you until then...
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    Methos Ranperre
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    I find the OP's statements insulting and toxic to the community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cougarel View Post
    Did you really expect
    I didn't, thus the sarcasm yet truth behind my statement.

    The new datacenter has been up less than a day. The Op has no proper assessment or data as they haven't given any time to adjust at all and properly evaluate. Where there are thousands of testaments and feats just from UK players alone maxing dps on endgame content on 150 to 250ms pings. We have even had many of them World First the hardest content before any adjustments and tunings were made.

    The OP can post pings, benchmark results, speed tests until they bleed. All they have proven is their lack of knowledge in the subjects of networking and how multiple servers operate. Also their selfishness to rudely label constructive criticism from many players with more experience in the subjects only degrades their statements further.
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    LalaRu's Avatar
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    Mi An
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    Phantom
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    Paladin Lv 80
    When people lamenting 200 ping, they were being turned down and slapped in face they just have to "git gud" and game is perfectly playable at 200 ping.

    Now, some of those "200 ping is ok" people gets their own from 10 to 100, and now crying the game is unplayable with 100 ping.

    I'm not impressed.
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