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  1. #691
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    Kaethra's Avatar
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    Kaethra Tatrinae
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    200ms pings from the east coast...

    Can someone explain why this is when Everquest's NA servers are just up the road from the FFXIV servers and the ping is half that or lower? Even before the server move.. twisting mudras was laggier than twisting bard songs in a 18 year old game.

    The problem isn't distance at all. There's a 100ms added just because its a SE operated server.
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  2. #692
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyzore View Post
    I'm playing on balmung from EU....i was hoping the jump would be for like 50-60ping...so i would be under 200 (180ish)...but increased to 210~... I started this game to play with my bf..found some nice friends and fc..never played a game with a ping above 180 since for my personal enjoyment is a bit too much. I transfered once to get on balmung...i guess i might have to transfer again to move from it. :/
    Well SE warned you at least that it's going to be bad. It's not easy to move to an EU server if you have house and friends but at least after the EU servers moved in Europe you stayed there with your own will and accepted the consequences.
    This is what it is and nothing can be done about it.
    Anyone playing on the NA servers from EU should seriously and I mean seriously consider to move to an EU server.
    If you don't want to move due to friends then you have to accept the consequences it will have to your connection.
    As for the housing a new housing area will open soon.
    Now is the chance to move.
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    Last edited by Riardon; 05-17-2017 at 05:52 PM.

  3. #693
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    Quote Originally Posted by cakesphere View Post
    People saying "100ms is good" just show their ignorance of other online games, really. There's a reason so many other games place their NA servers centrally or run several server locations across the continent.
    I understand your point, but the thing to remember is that FFXIV was specifically balanced to consider the fact that many players will experience a 100ms+ ping. Other games can afford to demand a quicker reaction time from players because there are more datacenters available to accommodate more regions. SE only has three separate datacenters, and there are many players who are outside of the 'safe' zone of 100ms. This is why 100ms is okay in this game, but not in others. I'm not sure what the 'magic number' is, but I know Yoshi P has been asked about this and specifically mentioned that the game was balanced to accommodate players with higher ping -- but only to a point. I am way too lazy to look it up, but someone else can feel free to post it if they want to. (In case anyone was wondering, this is why those of us on the East Coast were so spoiled -- we could fit a LOT in before running out of an AoE because we knew we had time to do it. Players on the West Coast are going to learn to appreciate that privilege very soon. :P)
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  4. #694
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyouki View Post
    Ah come on... I get it! You are frustrated and so am i! I am just trying to tell you that it is still POSSIBLE to play and have fun with friends if you are playing with a ping around 100ms. Nothing else.

    @ZeroSum
    Yes i know i could switch to the EU datacenter. I simply don't wanna do that, even if they now offer to take more money with you. I love the NA ppl i played with during the last 2 years. And it really bothers me if i am unable to understand the language in the chat/being unable to talk to my group via VoIP.
    Keep reading about people saying the language is an issue on EU servers. Well, I am on Ragnarok and the vast majority speak English including people who are from other countries. We also use Discord too for socializing and raids.
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  5. #695
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    I dont know what my ping was before, but it is 27-32 ms now living in San Diego, CA with Cox.net

    The game feels a little smoother in Balmung but a friend of mine on the east coast is getting horrible lag. I dont know if there was a correct solution to accommodate everyone unfortunately.
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  6. #696
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    Hyomin Park
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    Well, mine went from average of 80-90 to about 130... my tracert shows that my system takes more hops than it previously did to route to Cactuar. I don't hit Level3 currently, but towards the end I notice values shoot up from 40 ms to 130+. :/

    Been trying to see if there's a noticeable difference, except I keep getting 90k errors. Not sure if it's on SE's side or mine. ;_;
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  7. #697
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    Server location for a MMORPG like FFXIV shouldn't matter too much unless there is an extreme (EU playing on JP for example). Key word is 'Shouldn't' mind you.

    I've played Crysis (with MWLL overhaul mode) on multiplayer on a server in Germany from the East Coast of the US without much of a hitch. Pings were usually between 150-220 when doing so. Crysis in case some of you don't know is a First Person Shooter. The genre most heavily affected by Ping.

    I've also played many other MMORPGs on servers on the west coast. Usually seeing pings of about 80-120.

    ESO and FFXIV have some of the worst server performances of locally (in the US) based servers I've ever seen. Even before this move the server latency has been pretty intermittent while other MMOs (EQ, WoW, and others) have been fine. I think SE just doesn't have the experience with maintaining larger clustered server bases. And should probably consider devoting resources to remedying that.

    I mean if Daybreak can double their server capacity (from 5,000 to 10,000) and add a queue for their progression servers for their 18 year old games. I'm sure SE could manage something similar.
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  8. #698
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    Scholar Lv 70
    130 to 190-200. Lovely. I can say goodbye to any plans I had about raiding in SB.
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  9. #699
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    Can't wait for this one to blow over.
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    110 to 170.

    Kinda expected, could be worse. It's around 10k kilometres raw distance now.
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