[Data Center USA] Ping increased. Report your changes here.

[Aethaeryn]

Yeah, without a VPN my ping is slightly higher on NA servers now than EU, and I live in western NY. I average 127, but my average should be around 85. It's routing me to NYC first before doubling back and going to Seattle and then Sacramento. With Pingzapper I drop to 87, but it's spiking a lot, and I don't want to pay $10/month for WTFast on top of my $17 sub. :/ Hoping it'll stop traveling several hundred miles out of the way soon. I can deal with 85-90ms, but MCH feels really clunky at 130.

[Belhi]

Guys, most international players play perfectly well with pings of 200 and higher. The game is designed to be playable at 200 ping. If it wasn't it wouldn't have any oceanic players.

The EU servers are opening up because the player base is growing in EU and they need new servers to deal with the growth. The free transfers are for distributing population across the EU servers.

[Aethaeryn]

Guys, most international players play perfectly well with pings of 200 and higher. The game is designed to be playable at 200 ping. If it wasn't it wouldn't have any oceanic players.

This is false. Sorry. Some jobs require weaving double ogcds for optimal performance, and MCH in particular feels really bad for me with rapidfire up. If you think someone at 200ms can match dps with someone of equal gear and skill as someone with 40, you are wrong. I'm not all SKY IS FALLING GAME IS UNPLAYABLE, but I'm not gonna jump for joy at having to adjust my rotations and dodging after nearly 4 years. Just because the game is playable at 200ms doesn't mean it's enjoyable.

[Nerisu]

Guys, most international players play perfectly well with pings of 200 and higher. The game is designed to be playable at 200 ping. If it wasn't it wouldn't have any oceanic players.

People just got used to playing with near perfect ping for x number of years and the sudden increase is very palpable. I went down to 190~ from 260~ and it's already messing a little bit with my CD timings.

[Ultimatecalibur]

An important fact:

Higher Ping is not necessarily bad if it comes in exchange for lower packet loss.

Montreal was actually a very bad place and packets were often lost.

[Aethaeryn]

An important fact:

Higher Ping is not necessarily bad if it comes in exchange for lower packet loss.

Montreal was actually a very bad place and packets were often lost.

I almost never had that problem, and I can assure you this is hurting my performance in game right now. :/ I'll be fine if the routing is fixed, but right now I'm getting 40ms more than I should have.

[ZeroSum]

You can argue that playing with higher pings is doable but no one wants to and no one should have to.

[VeliusVire]

Again, 200+ ping is doable with double weaving, I've been doing it since ARR Launch, PS3, 230+ Ping. The playerbase needs to stop assuming or talking out of their rears because the doomsday hearsay is honestly pretty laughable. Given the fact that I've done all the raiding content while relevant + Ex Primals, yes, it is doable, and at a very high level of play as well. Just because /someone/ can't do it doesn't mean /nobody/ can do it. Given the fact that my raid team puts out the DPS that they do is evidence that, if you really want to, you can put out the numbers. I, however, do agree that for players who are /NOT/ used to playing with ping so high, it is not going to be enjoyable having to re-learn timings and fights to compensate for the higher ping, but it is what it is. They're not going to un-move the DC, so the two choices are Adapt or Quit. Grim, I know, but reality doesn't tend to be very bright all the time.

[Aethaeryn]

snip.

You *CAN* double weave at 200+, but you will clip GCD and it will hurt your performance a bit. I'm not pulling anything out of my rear; people have said for the past few years that even 80+ makes double weaving frustrating because of gcd clipping. I have been on 40-50ms for the past few years, so I can't say exactly where that threshold is, but I can tell you that just dummy testing alone makes it feel clunky with gcd clipping, and on mch with rapidfire I can't ogcd at all without clipping into gcd. I didn't have that problem before, and I've played MCH since it was added to the game.

Maybe it won't hurt much after I get used to it and adjust accordingly, but it's still kind of silly to have better ping to EU servers when I live in New York. West coast players have complained about ping for years, so why flip the issue now?

[Rifazhe]

Results from 20 pings: Minimum = 101ms, Maximum = 233ms, Average = 114ms Oh boy! I can't wait to do EX trials now! Thank you Squeenix for screwing over the northeast by choosing California and not somewhere in the middle.