[Data Center USA] Ping increased. Report your changes here.

[SteadiestShark]

i am on odin and all in my FC is UK players and i have a bunch on my FL

Good to know. How is the chat - is almost everyone writing in english too?

[Amiral_Benson]

South of France, optical fiber (FTTLA):

Before: 112ms
After: 177ms

Difference : +65ms

From a player perspective, this choice is hard to believe, all US East Coast players have now the ping we had from EU, and EU players crossed a threshold jeopardising savage raiding significantly.
Something in the middle of the USA like Austin or Dallas (130ms ping from EU) would have been a wiser choice, again, from a player perspective, because I believe Square Enix had their reasons to choose West Coast, and I respect that.

[Amiral_Benson]

That being said, from raiding experience purposes, some weeks ago, I did a tiny test on dummies, naked BRD lvl 60 on Moogle (30ms), and naked BRD lvl 60 on Excalibur (112ms), and it was an average of 5% loss in DPS.
I'm expecting this to be worse now with this new location.

But this could be fixed regardless of the ping.

I'm gonna quote someone who explained it better than I can:

[Amiral_Benson]

From Reddit:

There's absolutely no reason why anybody - raider, casual, hardcore, world-first, whatever - should have to feel bad about a <100ms ping. The base GCD of the game is 2.5 seconds, rarely dips below 2.0 for the fastest classes, and nobody is really asking to do more than 2 actions in between (or 3 actions in 2.0 seconds, an average of ~0.67 seconds each).

The fact that an extra 0.05s of latency has a dramatic impact on actions spaced 0.67s apart, a full order of magnitude longer, is totally f***** up, and could absolutely be fixed by SE if they decided that it was enough of a priority to do so. The only way they're going to get to the point where they feel that it's enough of a priority to fix is going to be if they get enough pressure from the playerbase to rethink the way that the game's client and server communicate when you use skills.

[Amiral_Benson]

But the problem lies elsewhere, those high pings wouldn't be a problem, and this new location wouldn't be a problem, if, I believe, a part of the netcode of FFXIV was different.
Right now, the way actions are handled between clients and servers, decreases the potential DPS when the ping increases.

As a raider playing FFXIV since 7 years, from 1.0 to today, like every 1.0 players I started on JP Datacenter, when only these ones were available before ARR. Then my world was moved to NA Datacenter. And even if Square Enix just announced today very good measures to facilitate transfers, I just can't transfer without losing 7 years of friends from all over the world, that still play on NA Datacenter, because this is what makes this game such special (like FFXI).

[Amiral_Benson]

I would love to see Square Enix taking care of that problem, the same way they did it already with NIN Mudra a while ago.
This would be fantastic, and this new location wouldn't matter anymore.

[Kyouki]

I was playing during the day. While most germans were still at work or school and most americans were still asleep the latency was ok. Not perfect, not good but ok. I was able to heal a roulette without any deaths etc.

Then i ran a roulette in EU prime time with more NA's online. In Idyllshire i tried to open my retainer dialog, started to count "one, two, th" pop... Then i went to the lonely Mist's MB, wishlist... "one, two" pop...

I checked my ressource monitors latency and found myself at 200-220. I'm sorry, i am out at this point. If the ping won't get better because of routing/DNS/whatever they said here in the forums then i'm done.

I don't wanna start over on a new server with a new community. What am i supposed to do on an empty server? Ppl usually move to more populated servers, not to empty ones.

[Exiled_Tonberry]

Im from germany. and had around 110ping - Montreal
Now I has around 180-200 from Sacramento and I actually dont notice any difference o__o

I spammed Mudras as Ninja + played there rotation. Did a Dun Scaith.
Everything was like usual. o:

I hope many other people can still play too!

For casual runs, that ping will most likely be fine. It's when you enter savage that it MAY be an issue.
Basically the ping increase is only going to effect raiders. Everyone else is fine.

[Lelila38]

For casual runs, that ping will most likely be fine. It's when you enter savage that it MAY be an issue.
Basically the ping increase is only going to effect raiders. Everyone else is fine.

^^that

I'm central EU and mine has gone up from 90-100 to 190. I did some quick EX primal runs and it doesn't feel as bad as I'd feared, gonna have to test A12S with its rather tight Radiant Sacraments next.

[Mirateski]

I'm considering moving to one of the new EU servers that're opening up. I did a few test pings - tested the central wow NA server and it was ~110ms, same as I was getting in montreal, currently ~220+ for NA data centres, and like 35 for Chaos. I was looking forward to learning how to double-weave now I've got a system that can handle it and it's all been snatched away

God help my static if I take SCH into omega on Ultros with that ping, tanking was already a matter of "die until you learn at which millisecond you need to move even though you were clearly out of the AoE two seconds ago"

cross data centre PF when SE

(Going into 12s on Friday, ostensibly to clear with my static, so that'll be hilarious)