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    Quote Originally Posted by DRHaymaker View Post
    It seems like you're completely missing the point - anywhere in the middle of the US, or at least not the coast, is a better than this option. Even splitting to both coasts makes more sense than this. Ultimately we'll see how much this affects performance. Undoubtedly however, this makes people less happy, with at best the people who are affected take an apathetic view, which isn't representative of a majority.
    Why are so many people assuming that having a data center in the middle most part of a piece of land the most "optimal"?

    Unless SE has released a listing of where the majority of inbound connections are coming from there is no way to know where in North America the vast majority of the traffic is originating from.

    As I posted earlier, Boston to Sacramento is 2600 miles. Coast to Coast. It's still possible to get under 100 ms ping times.
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    I'm located in boston and pinging the IPs in OP I'm getting average 152ms with a 200mbps connection, be it SE, my ISP, other ISPs i'm hopping from, I am most definitely seeing a 100+ ms ping increase. I'm on the fence of waiting to see how it really plays out before doom and gloom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackel View Post
    Why are so many people assuming that having a data center in the middle most part of a piece of land the most "optimal"?
    Because it is "optimal" for the widest amount of people. If the datacenter was on the east coast, it would be just as unfavorable to everyone from the center-west.

    As I posted earlier, Boston to Sacramento is 2600 miles. Coast to Coast. It's still possible to get under 100 ms ping times.
    Not all IPs are the same. Not everyone has the same access or type of connection to the internet. That chart is a moot point because some people are justifiably worried because when they choose a game server that's on the other side of the coast in ANY game, they can notice a change in speed. Again, "We'll see", but let's stop pretending there's baseless concerns.
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    Last edited by DRHaymaker; 05-17-2017 at 06:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRHaymaker View Post
    Not all IPs are the same.
    Truth be told, that's likely the main issue for US gamers.

    I'm currently playing from germany, which means around 3600 miles away. My connection to the servers in Montreal had around 110-120 MS latency and 5% packet loss. The infrastructure on the way being an ocean. When an US person tells me:"Under 100 MS latency coast to coast is possible at times", I wonder what exactly the cable providers in the US do with your signal on the way most of the times. It must be taking the scenic route for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRHaymaker View Post
    Because it is "optimal" for the widest amount of people. If the datacenter was on the east coast, it would be just as unfavorable to everyone from the center-west.[/B].
    I don't think people are pretending here. And "widest" amount of people only works if you have the login location data to support it.
    The ping/stability issue for coast to cast players isn't about location of the data center in this case. West Coast players have been down this road. If high latency and packet loss is occurring for players from origin to destination the issue lies somewhere in the middle, not necessarily because the server is X_distance from Y. Cut the distance and issues could still very much present themselves.

    This is a business move that had months of discussion in the pipeline before being deployed. For all we know this serves as the most beneficial for the current player base even if forum users freaking out in this thread are the majority.
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    I am very happy that they decided to move and, more importantly, upgrade servers but, come on, CA? Why there? Is a great deal of the NA player base located in that area? What possible reason could they possibly have to place it on a corner of North America instead of a more centralized location? Lets just hope the connection of those of us not in the North American land mass does not suffer too much. Getting mixed feelings about all this now. :/
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    I'm on the east coast. I have a wonderful connection at the moment. I don't personally expect to see much if any difference in performance tomorrow. I do worry a bit however about friends I have in the EU. This might be a real problem for some of them and I'd hate to see that happen to them. Worrying about it now isn't going to change the reality in the morning. It's only a few hours away.

    On a related note I was playing on the Chocobo server yesterday since it was open (and I was able to create an account there) and there was absolutely no difference that I could see in my game performance. Aren't those servers located in Japan and if so I'm pretty far away from them and it didn't affect me in the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I'm on the east coast. I have a wonderful connection at the moment. I don't personally expect to see much if any difference in performance tomorrow. I do worry a bit however about friends I have in the EU. This might be a real problem for some of them and I'd hate to see that happen to them. Worrying about it now isn't going to change the reality in the morning. It's only a few hours away.

    On a related note I was playing on the Chocobo server yesterday since it was open (and I was able to create an account there) and there was absolutely no difference that I could see in my game performance. Aren't those servers located in Japan and if so I'm pretty far away from them and it didn't affect me in the least.
    Im already seeing people talking about straight up quitting the game rather than transfer if it turns out to be true.
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    Connecting from rural Maine to California's gonna be fun. I'm happy for everyone in Australia and NZ, but going from 45 ping to ~145 ping will be awful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    Connecting from rural Maine to California's gonna be fun. I'm happy for everyone in Australia and NZ, but going from 45 ping to ~145 ping will be awful.
    Fellow Mainer Here! I've yet to have noticeable issues so far, but I am interested to see how the move will affect us.
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