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    Ama_Hamada's Avatar
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    Ama Hamada
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by sVankerRabbi View Post
    I have farmed A12S on BLM with over 300ms ping, an achievement I notice your previous sub-100ms self has not uploaded to fflogs. While I can certainly agree that higher ping makes it impossible to play BLM 100% optimized, you don't actually need to be perfect at your job to clear any of the content in this game - you just need to be good enough.Your ping went up and you can't play perfectly, I get it, but your own published records show you never played perfectly anyway. So if you'll allow me to be rude? Perhaps if you spent more time studying to perfect your job instead of lamenting on the internet then you'd have some A12S kills on fflogs by now.
    People wonder why we do not have Parser in game... Welp now you know, stuff like this. You shouldn't have to use 3rd party programs, when used in this manner, GMs take action on, and have them be catalog on some 3rd party site to share a concern.

    (BLM is prob the easiest thing to play in the world even with high ping, fyi, you only suffer a bit of DPS knowing you have this issue and not performing super tight Enochians. I will say I do find it a bit of "BS" that person is having issues as a blm under 100 ms, but I do not advice in trying to criticizing them in this manner.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I didnt even notice a difference going from 100 to 30. I never had issues at 100 as it was. people are overstating things severely.
    Because you can't see what people are talking about, it is that simple, you need to be able to have high reaction times. It also depends on job. Besides it is more about the bad coding that I am hoping that gets addressed, that allows people see issues between 30 and 100 ms. It is also coding issues that people still see issues at 30 ms.

    Quote Originally Posted by sVankerRabbi View Post
    Did you reply to the wrong post? I never said anything in my post commenting on whether SE was justified in their server relocation - only they know the reasons for it and they're not prepared to tell us. Please make your inferences based on what has actually been written and communicated, not assumed implications. The connection of sub-optimal play = justified server relocation is absolute nonsense and I don't support it in the slightest.
    It is not putting words in your mouth, it is the imply meaning you can pull what you said. It is that kind elitist GMs have a strong stance on parser harassment in game. You basically said "you must be not be performing good enough so you go no room to complain about latency". It is insanely rude. You got any proof why you should be saying this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner View Post
    I definitely can't play nin or blm anymore unless I want to be trash at them, 100ms+ being playable is a total lie, only paladin is unaffected.
    Shame they were they were the jobs I loved the most, but now swiftcast is not working properly and everything clip on nin, time to become a drg main.
    Here is the second part of the quote you seem to be agressive on. I seen a swiftcast error today, even by mouse clicking on top of things. I clicked swiftcast, then clicked on summon I, then I started to HARDCAST summon I. I moved to interrupt it to make the swiftcast work with it.



    I do not need to be on ff logs to express issues such as ^ that. fix the coding please?
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    Last edited by Ama_Hamada; 05-19-2017 at 10:38 AM.

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    Stormfur's Avatar
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    Hex Pathcrosser
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 72

    How much of a difference does it make?

    I'm on the east coast, and with the Montreal servers, it seems my ping was around 45 ms. Now it's in the 90s. I'm not complaining, since I don't notice any discernible difference but I'd genuinely like to know how much of a difference those extra 45 ms or so actually makes for most people?
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    Anryo Holryo
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    Bard Lv 60
    None, anything under 100 is as smooth as it could be.
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    Jay Ichijou
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    Coeurl
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    Dark Knight Lv 74
    The difference is very negligible on your end. From Montreal myself and haven't noticed any big lag so far.
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Results may vary. I'm noticing a difference in some things and it's a big improvement. Other things are same as they've always been.

    Already I've noticed I'm able to get out of aoes last second where they would have hit me before; and my healing is much smoother and faster so I don't have to precast or anticipate as much.
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    Raikki Zero
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    Jenova
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Move pushed me from 30ms to 105ms and the difference was pretty noticeable. Significant GCD clipping, combos take much more time to light up on the hotbar, casting cancels became much more delayed, and AOEs hit me when I dodge them the same way I always have. Using a tunneling service (Pingzapper) has helped bring the responsiveness a little closer to what it was like before, but not thrilled about the extra expense.
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    Naria Starcatcher
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    Sargatanas
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    Sage Lv 100
    I've played FFXIV from several different locations over the years, and in my experience the game only starts to get frustrating to play once you are getting into the 200-300ms range. I have noticed a difference in the lower ranges, but nothing that made me upset. Currently, my ping went up by 10ms with the move but my packet loss is gone despite the 'higher" (negligible) ping, so the game is playing more smoothly for me.
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    Gumbercules Thesecond
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    Miner Lv 80
    yeah the 0% packet loss is awesome, before even VPNs weren't completely resolving the packet loss, if at all.
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    Bravo Whiskey
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    Ravana
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    I initially played (ARR) at 250ms and downed Titan EX. Raided the first tier of Bahamut fine, first tier of Alex fine. (220-230ms for Alex).
    Moved to Tonberry with other Aussie players.....we all cleared Seph ex easily enough, despite our 'unplayable' ping of 100+

    The only difference you will notice is you wanting/looking for a difference and accidentally fabricating it in your mind.
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    The higher your ping the less time to react vs boss attacks, harder to chain skills properly and less action in a certain amount of compared to someone with a lower ms.

    But point and click MMO's are more "high" ping friendly and sometimes devs tweak their net code to compensate this (Overwatch and his shooter advantage for example). Anyway, you can check this videos for a general idea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meDtc3QqQeI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwaz_aAih-A

    Note: BnS is an extreme example, FF14 is not that bad but still is noticeable.
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    Last edited by Driavna; 05-19-2017 at 01:05 AM.

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