Transfer Restrictions and Roleplayers

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

You'd be amazing at what a few people taking the reins with a lot of unhappy people following can do.

This is quite true. With just a little effort, and some networking, I've been helping cultivate a PvP community on Goblin, and I'm happy to see it thriving.

That said, despite its size, Goblin's got a little of everything. And plenty of housing. No, our Quicksand isn't a notorious hub for RPers, but I know we do have a good number of them around. If you're considering a move for Stormblood, make an alt and come scope out Goblin.

[artemos7]

I've read it. Balmung is a problem and they're fixing it. If you don't want to adjust, then fine. Don't adjust.

That isn't helping anyone in this thread. Balmung is a problem, but also has been for a while, they should have worked to fix it long before this and then the need for this thread would have been different. When it started, and we decided on Balmung as the RP server unofficially, there was no worry of population, but now there is clearly. If you aren't an RPer, or aren't from Balmung, then your opinion is great, but it isn't helpful or adding to this discussion in a helpful way. Asking for RPserver designation is a valid inquiry to the team, and should be supported by most RPers who care for the future of their community. Tackling further issues is something we can meet over time if there is some push for at least that to start.

[MomomiMomi]

That isn't helping anyone in this thread. Balmung is a problem, but also has been for a while, they should have worked to fix it long before this and then the need for this thread would have been different. When it started, and we decided on Balmung as the RP server unofficially, there was no worry of population, but now there is clearly. If you aren't an RPer, or aren't from Balmung, then your opinion is great, but it isn't helpful or adding to this discussion in a helpful way. Asking for RPserver designation is a valid inquiry to the team, and should be supported by most RPers who care for the future of their community. Tackling further issues is something we can meet over time if there is some push for at least that to start.

I'm not talking about the request for an official RP server. Go ahead and request it, doesn't bother me.

What I'm responding to is this "we've tried it, it doesn't work" attitude on creating more unofficial RP communities. SE are giving a very heavy handed incentive to do it right now: Friends of people on Balmung can no longer join them. People who want the easy option of joining the largest RP community can no longer do it.

Forget what SE is going to do about it. What are you (general you) going to do about it?

[Velynea]

Forget what SE is going to do about it. What are you (general you) going to do about it?

I urge you to read my post again. We cannot do anything about it, unless SE offer us a hand or unlocks Balmung again.

This isn't about making new servers. We don't want them. This is not about transferring. We don't want that.

We just don't want our only true hub to start falling apart if this lock remains. We need new people. We are not like any other community. We are very unique and different in that regard. Without sounding melodramatic, this could take the enjoyment out of our game and how we spend our time if this remains a thing for a longer set period of time. Once more, we need new people to prevent things from stagnating. We need them in numbers, because all those type of various roleplayers need their brand of roleplayers to jive with. This isn't just a matter of "We like raiding" or "We like PvPing" and team up. Our situation is one I'm trying to explain, but I'm not sure if I'm wording things correctly, amongst several others, as no one appears to be understand what we are trying to convey.

Or people are just being immensely dense due to lack of knowledge on our community and prefer to stay that way. I'm not sure.

[Vexander]

I doubt SE needs to go so far as to make entirely new Servers as RP servers. What they need to do is to make some of the lesser populated servers into, 'Official RP Servers.' What's an, 'Official RP Server?' Quite literally a server with (RP) next to it's name in the server listing. It does NOT need to be more than that. It does not need more rules or anything of the sort.

The real issue is whether or not this would be the perfect solution... RP'ers tried to leave Balmung, chose Gilgamesh as their new target server and then... Gilgamesh became the second most populated server on the Aether Data Center. I'm not sure how populated Gilgamesh was before the move, but from what I've been told, it was pretty dead.

[MomomiMomi]

I urge you to read my post again. We cannot do anything about it, unless SE offer us a hand or unlocks Balmung again.

This isn't about making new servers. We don't want them. This is not about transferring. We don't want that.

We just don't want our only true hub to start falling apart if this lock remains. We need new people. We are not like any other community. We are very unique and different in that regard.

Well it's going to happen. What are you going to do about it?

[Kuroneko_Jutah]

I'm not talking about the request for an official RP server. Go ahead and request it, doesn't bother me.

What I'm responding to is this "we've tried it, it doesn't work" attitude on creating more unofficial RP communities. SE are giving a very heavy handed incentive to do it right now: Friends of people on Balmung can no longer join them. People who want the easy option of joining the largest RP community can no longer do it.

Forget what SE is going to do about it. What are you (general you) going to do about it?

This, so much. I understand not wanting to abandon friends and established communities (I wanted to play with my in-game spouse so much I followed them to Balmung) and assets. That part is well documented and understood.

What I don't understand is the active discouragement of people to find their own way around it. Digging in your heels and refusing to move is your business, and you're welcome to it. Telling other people not to do it on the grounds that you don't think it'll work is, however, none of your business. But we're all entitled to opinions, I suppose, so that's that.

For what its worth, the only reason I'm not an active member of Balmung's RP community is that I'm already a member of an RP community elsewhere, and XIV is where I go to unwind from that. I am fairly experienced in watching and maintaining these sorts of things, and allowing a community to become bloated to excess is, in fact, not healthy for growth at all. People get pushed out or feel they don't belong anymore. This is especially apparent in the (lack of) housing available: I'd probably be an active part of the Balmung RP community if my husband and I could actually get a house and settle down.

I urge you to read my post again. We cannot do anything about it, unless SE offer us a hand or unlocks Balmung again.

This isn't about making new servers. We don't want them. This is not about transferring. We don't want that.

We just don't want our only true hub to start falling apart if this lock remains. We need new people. We are not like any other community. We are very unique and different in that regard.

They really can't allow that for a multitude of reasons. Balmung will continue to become more and more full and you'll have one immense server where there will constantly be queues to log in, cities will be packed with more players and loading into zones becomes an issue, and you still have no housing available for these new people you so desperately need.

Some of the responsibility must necessarily fall on the players themselves. There is no one single thing SE can do to solve this problem that lets you have exactly what you want without shortchanging every other server who does not have Balmung's problems.

[Naunet]

By that, I mean that if Square Enix offers free transfers with the retention (or compensation) of all assets, and designates an "official RP server" on top of that, I think it'd be possible for all RPers to move with limited fracturing.

Why is the the RPers who have to move? Label Balmung the official RP server and let the non-RPers - people who would have a much easier time uprooting - take advantage of free transfers/etc.

It's a LOT easier to move/rebuild a raid group on another server than it is to re-establish an entire RP community with character relationships, housing RP hubs, history, and more.

[MomomiMomi]

Why is the the RPers who have to move? Label Balmung the official RP server and let the non-RPers - people who would have a much easier time uprooting - take advantage of free transfers/etc.

This problem is just going to happen again. If there's only one option, it's going to get bloated.

Also, what if the non-RPers also don't want to leave for the same reasons? They have friends, etc. You going to live with Balmung locked forever?

[Velynea]

What I don't understand is the active discouragement of people to find their own way around it. Digging in your heels and refusing to move is your business, and you're welcome to it. Telling other people not to do it on the grounds that you don't think it'll work is, however, none of your business. But we're all entitled to opinions, I suppose, so that's that.

Once more, my humble excuses for having a different opinion and not wishing to offer a one sided, unrealistic statement. Stating that it is not my business is absurd while we are discussing this topic. Just because you do not enjoy to hear another view does not mean you need to try to silence it.