Transfer Restrictions and Roleplayers

[Lissandra]

You only count as active if there's a change in your lodestone, I imagine characters with the sole purpose of RPing wouldn't have many changes.

Besides many of you keep saying that Balmung is more than RP and RP is not a big part of the server.

Glamour is very popular, so if a seasonal event gives out items, many people will play on all their alts to get said items. This will then reflect a change on their lodestone (because achievements). It happens often enough that they may be counted as a active player.

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

The solution is not another unofficial RP server that will collapse or devolve into little more than 10-50 person clique spread out over 2-3 FCs.

There are two solutions to this issue:

(1) RP is consolidated on one hub - Balmung; OR

(2) RP is consolidated on one hub - Official RP server.

It doesn't matter which alternative happens; what matters is that RP is consolidated on one server. SE should take the exceedingly simple, cheap, and effective step of designating a new RP server and make transferring to that server for RPers seamless. This benefits everyone. RPers are able to have the community they need and value. PVEers can avoid RPers if they desire.

The OP's proposal is what needs to happen.

Neither solution is viable cause you still don't get it. ONE server CANNOT accommodate ALL role players. I'm sorry but your server has a hard limit to the number of players it can sustain. You have no choice but to accept that fact. No amount of stomping your feet will change it. You can only pack so many sardines in a can before you simply cannot fit anymore. Congrats you're a sardine and the Balmung can is full.

In no uncertain terms, you will never get what you want. You have no say in the matter, no choice to offer, and no other options. I know that sounds harsh but you seem like you're not listening. Balmung and Gilgamesh are at capacity. Infinite capacity is NOT POSSIBLE.

[ExKage]

Unlikely, but its possible. Would explain the constant locking of several servers, and the extreme locking of Balmung and Gilgamesh.

Even with errors in both LuckyBancho's and the ffxivcensus.com data, I would be comfortable in saying that the mark of 7-8k active players for a server to be considered highly congested is really high. SE's chosen locks make sense just by looking at ffxivcensus.com's numbers.


4/6 EU worlds are at this point of 7-8k while the other 2 worlds are probably 4.5k. Because they're evenly congested, there's no real benefit in attempting to even the distribution with transfers. New worlds is the best answer.

Aether: 2 worlds have over 7k, Balmung and Gilgamesh locked. Balmung at 13k and Gilgamesh at 11k The next highest worlds in Aether data center aren't quite 6k. Some are 4k and a few more are less than 3k.

Primal: No worlds locked. Highest actively populated world is Leviathan at just a little over 7k. A few other worlds at 7k. Primal's populations are more evenly distributed. If the worlds get more populated, they're likely to get a new world or get similarly asked to transfer to the other worlds on Aether. Not quite all of them are highly congested.

Gaia: Bahamut is over 10k. It is locked. All other worlds are at 5k or definitely sub 5k.

Elemental: Tonberry is over 7.5k, not locked. All other worlds are at 5k or definitely sub 5k.

Mana: Chocobo, Mandragora, and Shinryu locked. CHocobo and Shinryu are just a little over or at 10k. Mandragora is over 7.5k. All other worlds are at 5k or definitely sub 5k.

[artemos7]

I guess it may surprise some, BUT I don't necessarily want Balmung to open either. I don't care if it opens or not, I still want an RP designated server. If people don't like RPers, they should support a place for us to go where we don't bother anyone else except those who enjoy our company. It won't of course force everyone away, but it will thin the herd and help call future RPers to us.

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

I guess it may surprise some, BUT I don't necessarily want Balmung to open either. I don't care if it opens or not, I still want an RP designated server. If people don't like RPers, they should support a place for us to go where we don't bother anyone else except those who enjoy our company. It won't of course force everyone away, but it will thin the herd and help call future RPers to us.

Having servers designated as "RP Servers" isn't a bad thing to want nor unfeasible. Asking for that is far more likely to gain traction with the devs than asking for them to magically turn Balmung into a T.A.R.D.I.S. so its "bigger on the inside" than what reality dictates is possible.

I'm in full support of RP designations on servers so RP'rs have a designated place to go where they can enjoy the game in the manner in which they like.

[Oxmodial]

Neither solution is viable cause you still don't get it. ONE server CANNOT accommodate ALL role players. I'm sorry but your server has a hard limit to the number of players it can sustain. You have no choice but to accept that fact. No amount of stomping your feet will change it. You can only pack so many sardines in a can before you simply cannot fit anymore. Congrats you're a sardine and the Balmung can is full.

In no uncertain terms, you will never get what you want. You have no say in the matter, no choice to offer, and no other options. I know that sounds harsh but you seem like you're not listening. Balmung and Gilgamesh are at capacity. Infinite capacity is NOT POSSIBLE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D5DLQoR0OU&t=0m33s

[BillyKaplan]

I wonder how much natural transfer we're going to be seeing given the NA server move. A lot of players are based in EU, and might care enough to transfer to the EU servers given the hit to some of our pings. I think they're waiting for the free transfers though, so I agree they should've implemented it at the same time as the lockdown. Even if they'd have offered free transfers with no compensation for now, alts who are played but have, say, no houses, could've already moved out.

One thing I didn't get, and I have tried to read the entire thread, is why people claim that RPers should be the go-to people to transfer. Isn't that a huge part of why people transferred to Balmung? We're already an RP server in anything but name. Every solution I've seen suggested would work just as well for non-RPers.

"Non-RPers generally don't have many reasons to transfer"
Nor do they have any reason to stay, beyond their communities - but that can be said about both sides.

[BlueLulu]

I don't understand why SE is waiting till THE DAY OF STORMBLOOD to implement these transfer benefits when it'd be best to do them BEFORE stormblood drops. If they know the servers going to have major problems during the launch because of the population you would think they would have implemented these benefits way before now unless SE just decided not to do anything about it till now.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

The solution is not another unofficial RP server that will collapse or devolve into little more than 10-50 person clique spread out over 2-3 FCs.

There are two solutions to this issue:

(1) RP is consolidated on one hub - Balmung; OR

(2) RP is consolidated on one hub - Official RP server.

It doesn't matter which alternative happens; what matters is that RP is consolidated on one server. SE should take the exceedingly simple, cheap, and effective step of designating a new RP server and make transferring to that server for RPers seamless. This benefits everyone. RPers are able to have the community they need and value. PVEers can avoid RPers if they desire.

The OP's proposal is what needs to happen.

Honestly, if they ever want to temper Balmung's population, they need to create a whole new server and designate it the official roleplay server. This way, they can properly accommodate housing by potentially allowing people on Balmung to quite literally transfer everything or simply repurchase the exact same house. Nothing else they do is going to motivate a substantial number of players to relocate, especially if they already have a house.

[MistakeNot]

Neither solution is viable cause you still don't get it. ONE server CANNOT accommodate ALL role players. I'm sorry but your server has a hard limit to the number of players it can sustain. You have no choice but to accept that fact. No amount of stomping your feet will change it. You can only pack so many sardines in a can before you simply cannot fit anymore. Congrats you're a sardine and the Balmung can is full.

A single server can almost certainly accommodate all the role players - there are not THAT many of them.
What doesn't work is a single server handling (almost) all the RPers AND a large number of non-RPers - which is what Balmung is doing right now.