Transfer Restrictions and Roleplayers

[MomomiMomi]

So I am to blame for those servers being locked. Well. I shall go directly punish myself for this with a few hard lashes on my back, and hope the Twelve and the community of all those people will forgive me.

I'm sorry, you were insulting my intelligence so I didn't think this was necessary.

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[Velynea]

I'm sorry, you were insulting my intelligence so I didn't think this was necessary.

I invite you to look at my previous posts once more. I have an inkling you did not read them, or perhaps the context of the post was too hard to grasp.

[Atreyu]

Roleplayers have been asking for a RP-designated server since the 1.0 beta. We were told that SE was unlikely to listen to our desires, that Japan didn't really have much of an understanding of RP and that we had to create our own solution. So we did. We picked Besaid, which later became Balmung when 1.0 flopped hard and it was merged with another server.

When 2.0 launched to breathe the breath of life into the game, we asked for the same. A designated RP server so that our community would know where to go if we wanted to RP. Surprise, we weren't listened to again and didn't get one. Most instead remained on Balmung while the 'new' RPers (those who wanted a fresh start with a new economy rather than 'old money') went to Gilgamesh. Clearly that didn't work out in the end due to a variety of factors... but the main one was because the RP community was divided and Balmung had a larger, healthier and more established name and RP community. Lesson learned: dividing the community is bad for roleplayers and will fracture it.

Now we're being told that this problem was caused by us, that it's all our faults and that (in the opinion of some people) we should leave the place that we've established roots; for some of us, those roots go 7+ years deep.

And yet, all of this could have been avoided if SE would have given us a RP tag at the end of a server from the start, whether that was 1.0 or 2.0. So yes, I would agree that at least some of this 'blame' is on SE for not listening to some of its longest-standing members and most dedicated players.

[ExKage]

Time to revisit this I guess. Balmung isn't the only world locked down. Bahamut, Mandragora, Chocobo and Shinryu are as well as Gilgamesh. Based on the last UNOFFICIAL census, all 6 of the worlds that are locked are at just about 10,000 people. Some of the worlds in NA are only 2-5k. SE has a damn good reason to try to even out its active character distribution without having to force mergers until necessary. They're probably usually seeing issues at 9k actives.

Balmung is over 13k. Gilgamesh is 11k. The next highest populated server in NA? Leviathan at 7.2k. Balmung is -double- leviathan while Mateus is only 2k. Japan's 4 worlds closed are also around 7.5k-9k with the exception of Tonberry not being there. It's probably doing 'ok' at the current moment because its population isn't as big of an issue. Mandragora, Chocobo and Shinryu are all on the same Data Center after all.

All of the EU worlds are over 4k active. All but 2 are near 7-8k. The others are 4.5k. THAT is why EU is getting new worlds why Japanese and NA data centers are trying to see a level out. We're too jammed in several worlds and hitting critical levels. It's not cost effective to put in MORE MONEY when they can level out.

This is why the best idea, maybe not the best possible solution, but the most likely one is to try and help foster a second bigger community, especially for RP. It helps with distribution while consolidating smaller communities that wouldn't fail because it relies on key small people or groups. The others in the network can pick it up. I say that because I highly doubt SE will actually add a new world looking at the general populations of the NA worlds. They might label a world an RP world but does that work? Maybe. What if they choose a world no one considered for RP anyway for their RP world? Maybe they do choose one people want. The big question then is, are the incentives good enough?





This smooth line curve may help. Each significant peak in the lines for NA and JPN are Balmung, Gilgamesh, Bahamut, Chocobo, Mandragora, Shinryu (and Tonberry).


Because honestly? Looking at these graphs, I highly doubt Balmung is going to open until it knocks out at least 4k players. Gilgamesh is the same.

[MomomiMomi]

I invite you to look at my previous posts once more. I have an inkling you did not read them, or perhaps the context of the post was too hard to grasp.

Sure, when you admit that this is of the players' doing.

You can cry that all you wanted is to play with your friends all you want. The server is bursting and people keep packing into it despite that. Whose fault is it that it's extremely beyond capacity?

[Naunet]

The server is bursting and people keep packing into it despite that. Whose fault is it that it's extremely beyond capacity?

Why are you obsessed with determining whose "fault" it is?

If you really want to, I could point out that roleplayers are rarely the majority on a server - especially in games that don't label RP servers.

[MomomiMomi]

Why are you obsessed with determining whose "fault" it is?

If you really want to, I could point out that roleplayers are rarely the majority on a server - especially in games that don't label RP servers.

They're the ones who were arguing it to begin with, denying that it is.

I point you to the first post.

Uhm. No. Square Enix has the responsibility for this. Not the player base. It is rather entitled and arrogant you try to blame people for this. Don't try to shift the blame on the community. It makes you look extremely dim-witted and uninformed. Square Enix are the ones who hold the end responsibility. Not their customers.

As to your second sesntence, I did not say it is the fault of the RPers. I said it's the fault of the players. The ones who all keep packing into Balmung despite it being locked to character creation for years now.

[Darus]

What's with all the flame battle going on here.

Balmung is a consequence of both players and SE actions. Players labeled it the unofficial RP server thinking it would be a much smaller community, which it was, for the start of 2.0. SE labeled it as Legacy, meaning more people joined and stuck around early on. Eventually the RP community kept increasing to drastic numbers (and yes, it IS that big, as a non-RPer it's near impossible to recruit on the server). Balmung's unique nature attracts some who just wanna see bustling streets (which is nice, I admit) and it keeps swelling. The whole "if that many people are there it must be fun", also got more people to join.

Whose fault is it in the end? - Chaos theory


The solution really is just an RP added to the end of a server, everything else would sort itself out.

[Lexia]

We picked Besaid, which later became Balmung when 1.0 flopped hard and it was merged with another server.

Balmung wasn't merged with anything, Balmung was the result of two other servers being merged together. Fabul + Besaid

[Atreyu]

Balmung wasn't merged with anything, Balmung was the result of two other servers being merged together. Fabul + Besaid

That's... exactly what I said. Besaid became Balmung when Besaid and another server (as you said, Fabul) were merged.