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    Dani Elfman
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    Main scenario dungeon issue (URGENT)

    I wasn't sure to put this under the 'bug' section or the 'dungeon' one but here goes:
    So I'm queued for the main scenario dungeon, the finale of the game preceding the only credits sequence I've seen in an MMO to date and the culmination of 40+ hours of carefully construed narrative and build up, and I cannot partake in any of the engrossing set pieces because the instance is over so quick, by the time I finish watching my first cutscene with Cid Van Baelsar proclaiming he was my father all along the other players have already acquainted themselves with the final boss and I can even hear dialogue from future battle sequences I've yet to experience blaring through the dungeon-wide loudspeakers during, and suffice to say this ruins my experience.
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    Last edited by Catboi; 05-17-2017 at 10:21 PM.

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    Tesaie Blackstar
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    You can watch the cutscenes from book in you inn room
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    They were clearly meant to be watched in tune with the battle sequences as they are woven together. A cutscene leading to an engagement wouldn't be much without.
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    Eva Gamirdren
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    The last two dungeons of the ARR launch story have about half an hour of cutscenes in them each. Most groups will not wait for people to watch them.
    You can either :
    a) Watch the scenes and be locked out of fights. Possibly have some scenes not trigger at all due to the group triggering later ones before it can play.
    b)Skip the scenes and watch them later in the inn.
    c) Make a premade party with Party Finder letting people know that you want to see the scenes and do the the fights. One or two 60 players can carry the instance unsynced.

    SE learned from this experience and placed most cutscenes before and after dungeons instead of during from then on.
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    I've found that the solution to this problem already exists, even in the selfsame main scenario dungeons. Simply placing players into a barrier grid until all the players have finished watching the cutscenes would suffice the way they already force you to wait for players to finish loading the game's assets so no-one gets left behind.

    I don't think Squeenix could have learned much from their ways when (mandatory) story content is still broken to the point of ruin.
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catboi View Post
    I've found that the solution to this problem already exists, even in the selfsame main scenario dungeons. Simply placing players into a barrier grid until all the players have finished watching the cutscenes would suffice the way they already force you to wait for players to finish loading the game's assets so no-one gets left behind.
    The result would be that very few people would run the main scenarion roulette at all (due to most not wanting to wait while cutscenes are watched) which in turn would lead to queue times for those duties becoming very, very long.
    Not a good solution.

    Now, this is a known problem which has been discussed many, many, MANY, times over the last several years. So far nobody has been able to come up with an actual workable solution that does not involve remaking the main scenarion dungeons from scratch - which seems very unlikely to happen after all this time.
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    Well it is a problem in itself that the main quest can only be completed by forcing other players to do it with you against their will to then compensate them with tomes for their gear treadmill. It's almost sadistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catboi View Post
    Well it is a problem in itself that the main quest can only be completed by forcing other players to do it with you against their will to then compensate them with tomes for their gear treadmill. It's almost sadistic.
    That is pretty much true for all the dungeons. Few people would run any of them more than once or twice except for the rewards.
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    By patch 4.1 you'll be able to replace players with npc squadron and go at your pace. I assume praetorum will be one of the duties they script squadron behavior for. It will be a very late solution to a dungeon introduced in 2013 but better late than never.
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    Nikolas Flamel
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    Paladin Lv 70
    It's a real drag. I suppose the only thing you could do, if you want to watch the cutscenes in the last two instances during the instance, is to create a party finder instance and state that all cutscenes will be watched. I've seen a few of those there and there.
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