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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Well, knowledge of Omega obviously comes from the Ivy. It was brought up as a plot point in, what... 2.2? 2.3? before finally being tapped for plot relevance in 3.56. It was pretty much an open secret at that point. Shinryu, on the other hand, was a nascent primal - unless the Ivy's operatives are still active, there's no way Zenos should have been able to identify it. It's most highlighted in the adjutant's lack of knowledge about Shinryu (he calls it an "unknown eikon"), while Zenos is already aware of what the Domans are calling it through spies. Could be the Ivy's hangers-on.
    Considering Zenos is mentioned as becoming somewhat interested in Doman culture (in particular, gaining a fancy for the katana, which is his preferred weapon), and that Kan-E-Senna mentioned the Doman refugees in Eorzea immediately identified Ilberd's last gasp as Shinryu, based on a "old Doman legend", it's entirely possible that Zenos came to the exact same conclusion as the Doman refugees, that the 'unknown eikon' was a god dragon from Doman legends, and named it accordingly.

    Or else he was already informed of it by the Ascians - hells it was Elidibus who all but instructed Ilberd how to summon in the first place (by giving him Nidhogg's eyes to do so), Elidibus might have also been in Zenos's ear as well, playing the two sides against each other, it fits the Ascians' MO after all (remember they've done that in the past with Thordan the VIIth already, nudging him into summoning Knights of the Round).

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    As for his attitude and opinion on others... he seems apathetic, not malevolent. He doesn't care about others - he simply doesn't care if they live or die. If they happen to get in the way of his goals or desires he will cut them down, but otherwise he simply doesn't give a damn. Zenos wants to stir up as much shit as he can so he can get a good fight out of it, from the sound of it - I'm currently pegging him as a villainous blood knight. That he would make no effort toward peace simply so he can get a good fight out of it... already makes him unsympathetic.
    The more I think of it, the more it seems the whole reason he's finally excited about the cold war between Eorzea and the Empire finally going hot is less at he can now have a war to fight in, and more that he's excited about what that will inevitably entail, the prospect of facing down in battle Eorzea's champion, the one the XIVth Legion called the Eikon Slayer - us, the Warrior of Light! Where there is a Primal, inevitably we'd be dispatched to deal with it, and thus all he has to do is then show up and he gets a worthy adversary that he can revel in.

    Throwing away countless lives on both sides means nothing to him as you mentioned. Just as long as he gets the battle to end all battles against the most powerful warrior on Hydaelyn (lets face it, the Warrior of Light technically is), he's happy. He's like some cannibal god, rejoicing in the ruin of his own temple as it burns down around him. Hence it makes him far more dangerous than Gaius or even Nael ever were.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    I get the feeling Yotsuyu may be more nuanced, and Fordola almost definitely will, but as it stands Zenos is just a battle-lusted blood knight. Suffice to say, Fordola is the antagonist I most look forward to clashing with at the moment. I'll strike down Zenos without a second thought if he refuses to surrender.
    Oh I have no doubt Yotsuyu is nothing but a shameless quisling who will either a) be overthrown by the Domans and disposed of accordingly, or B) will have to be taken down by us to liberate Doma - the scenes in the Revolutions video makes it clear she is basically a cruel, cold-hearted villainness (driven home when she is shown apparently stomping down on Gosetsu's head with a glare that could melt lead). It's clear SE doesn't want the player to like her or sympathize with her at all (even less so than Zenos probably), and they made that plain in the video.

    Fordola to me though comes across as more a reluctant Garlean collaborator - Ala Mhigan born but drafted in the Empire while being shunned by both, she hence to me appears more likely the one to actually swap sides once the excrement really starts hitting the fan as hostilities heat up and the revolutions on both sides of the world start making inroads - she comes across to me as FFXIV's version of Beatrix from FFIX. So yeah, I am definitely intrigued by her as a character and really look forward to finding out more about her story and motivations (I just hope I didn't get things horribly wrong and find SE has pulled a bait and switch on me and turned her into the cold hearted monster and instead make Yotsuyu more sympathetic.)

    Quote Originally Posted by YianKutku View Post
    Something I've just thought about.



    That is a huge flag. I know MMOs tend to build the environment much larger than normal due to stuff like camera angles, but that is in an oversized scale of its own.

    Also, I'm pretty sure I've seen that symbol before, but I've completely forgotten what it means. Could someone please refresh my memory?
    That flagpole is also shown at other points in the video with a Garlean banner, so it's clear that scene shows the moment Ala Mhigo falls to the Alliance/Resistance (further given weight by M'naago on it blowing on a horn), therefore that banner is either the flag of the Eorzean Alliance or the Ala Mhigan Resistance. Personally I don't think it's the Resistance, as the Ala Mhigan flag would suffice for that, so the Alliance would be a better fit. Either way, that had me wondering as well (no doubt it's something we'll find out soon enough in a month or so. ).
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    Last edited by Enkidoh; 05-21-2017 at 05:54 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.