Revolutions Hype Thread

[Viridiana]

As far as the story goes with all of the different places, I would absolutely LOVE if they did what happens in FF6 after the raft ride. Namely, three separate paths that culminate in the big story that can be done in either order.

"Warrior of light we must free the Domans, but we also must secure help from the Au Ra, and finally we must make an alliance with the Ananta if we are to have a chance. Which should we do first?" Then allow us, the player, to make that call.

I mean, that's kinda what they did at the beginning of HW, iirc. Sea of Clouds and Western Coerthas can be done in either order, right?

[Khalithar]

Skip.

Like I said, it was just wishful thinking on my part.

Another thought occurred to me about revolutions though, does anyone else think it will be the song that plays when we fight Zenos? Thus far, the main themes have always been what played during the most important fight to that song.

Answers played when we fought bahamut at the end of coil and Dragonsong played when we fought Nidhogg. So Revolutions fits for Zenos unless well...

Unless the devs decide to keep with the idea of the fight involving the main song must be against a dragon and we fight ilberd's dragon primal. The name eludes me right this second.

[myahele]

Upon many repeated viewings, it seems as if the Au Ra tribe we see:

Will be the ones that will accompany Hien the airstrike:

What's also interesting is that the mount they ride is the same creature (thought it was a griffin) depicted in one of the Azim Steppes artwork

[VargasVermillion]

I predict the main theme around the ala mhigans who were born under garlean occupation would be that they wouldn't be considered ala mhigan anymore so they'd have a better chance keeping their allegiances with the empire, could you imagine ala mhigo's more patriotic resistance members giving them a chance? I think it'd be naive to assume so.

[Shurrikhan]

...the ones that will accompany Hien the airstrike:

What's also interesting is that the mount they ride is the same creature (thought it was a griffin) depicted in one of the Azim Steppes artwork

Parts like this make me wish so badly that our in-game cinematics weren't limited to the stiff stock (or, character-capable) animations.

[Belhi]

I think the tension between those who have grown up and integrated into the society that has been established and those who seek revolution will be an interesting one. Garlean occupation isn't pleasant by the sound of it but likewise those who have an established investment in what has been built are hardly going to throw that away particularly unless the revolutionaries can offer an alternative that is actually giving up what already exists. Let's not forget the last king of Ala Mhigo was a complete disaster. Perhaps that is going to be part of Lyse's story. Discovering that not every Ala Mhigo is willing to lose stability for the sake of freedom unless there is some promise of something better.

[Theodric]

By the looks of it, a pretty brutal and direct attack on the part of the Eorzean Alliance and their new allies is going to be how they reclaim Ala Mhigo and Doma. That's assuming they even succeed or that they don't just cause their opponents to destroy the place in an effort to prevent them being claimed by another party. I do wonder, though - what if the flooding of Doma is something inflicted by the actions of the Warrior of Light and his allies? I can't shake the feeling that the Eorzean Alliance is going to go too far somehow, especially since it is directly meddling in the affairs of foreign nations.

It's the events at Baelsar's Wall that make me fairly certain that this is going to be the case, along with the lyrics of the song in the trailer. Furthermore, Ishgard made it crystal clear that the Warrior of Light and his allies have no issue slaughtering those who just happen to remain loyal to a cause that they oppose. How many of those murdered in The Vault, for instance, were cut down without ever being given an explanation of the Archbishop's true plans? How many of those slain had friends and family who are left hollow as a result? Forced to see their loved ones branded as the 'bad guys' by those who engage in desperate virtue signalling to be seen as 'progressive'?

It reminds me of how FF7 took measures to show that the protagonists, in all their self righteousness, engaged in terrorist attacks that caused innocent people to die simply because they happened to be associated with Shinra, an organisation that employed countless regular workers rather than just soldiers. What will the Warrior of Light and Scions do if, in their attempt to reclaim territory, a bunch of non-combatants decide to defend their friends and family with pitchforks? Will they be cut down if they can't be convinced? All excellent questions and scenarios I hope the developers take into consideration. I have faith that they will given the trailer's content and lyrics, though.

It'd be interesting to see how a lot of the people frequenting this place would react if the reality of such a war was explored in full.

[Belhi]

I think there will definitely be an aspect of the cost of war but the expansion is clearly themed around liberation. I think at the end of it the actions of the WoL will be presented as the right call. Garlemald is clearly going to be the antagonists. I think the real fallout of this war cost wise will come afterward. I think its very unlikely that the WoL will be painted in a bad light. In the end the WoL is the protagonist and people don't want to feel like they are on the wrong side. That said showing that their is a human cost to their actions is worth while.

To some extent there was a little of this in Heavensward. Realistically there was no neat solution, no peaceful, clean way to end the war. The conflict involved was just too ingrained. Not taking action was more risky and potentially far more damaging than taking action. To some extent I think this will be a factor in Stormblood but in the end I expect the sense that the WoL is making the right call will be there.

[SuperFlorinjin]

I think there will definitely be an aspect of the cost of war but the expansion is clearly themed around liberation. I think at the end of it the actions of the WoL will be presented as the right call. Garlemald is clearly going to be the antagonists. I think the real fallout of this war cost wise will come afterward.

I'm betting that by the end of things we'll have booted Garlemald out of Doma and Ala Mhigo... and that will cause them to step up their game. It'll be their first REAL loss in decades of war, not just stalled or losing an army or two but actually forced out of 'their' territory.

[KageTokage]

It doesn't look as though the Eorzean alliance is actually present in Othard and rather that it's just us and the Scions who head there. I assume they'd probably be too busy holding the line over in Ala Mhigo to send forces over.

I also get the impression that the main reason Othard even fell under imperial rule in the first place is that it was divided at the time of the invasion, unlike Eorzea which had established an alliance between the three Grand Companies by the time the Garleans arrived. Hien probably realized that after their failed uprising, which is why he's trying to gain the support of the Xaela tribes (And presumably others, considering that the Kolin are going be getting involved, as well).