Revolutions Hype Thread

[Theodric]

By the looks of it, a pretty brutal and direct attack on the part of the Eorzean Alliance and their new allies is going to be how they reclaim Ala Mhigo and Doma. That's assuming they even succeed or that they don't just cause their opponents to destroy the place in an effort to prevent them being claimed by another party. I do wonder, though - what if the flooding of Doma is something inflicted by the actions of the Warrior of Light and his allies? I can't shake the feeling that the Eorzean Alliance is going to go too far somehow, especially since it is directly meddling in the affairs of foreign nations.

It's the events at Baelsar's Wall that make me fairly certain that this is going to be the case, along with the lyrics of the song in the trailer. Furthermore, Ishgard made it crystal clear that the Warrior of Light and his allies have no issue slaughtering those who just happen to remain loyal to a cause that they oppose. How many of those murdered in The Vault, for instance, were cut down without ever being given an explanation of the Archbishop's true plans? How many of those slain had friends and family who are left hollow as a result? Forced to see their loved ones branded as the 'bad guys' by those who engage in desperate virtue signalling to be seen as 'progressive'?

It reminds me of how FF7 took measures to show that the protagonists, in all their self righteousness, engaged in terrorist attacks that caused innocent people to die simply because they happened to be associated with Shinra, an organisation that employed countless regular workers rather than just soldiers. What will the Warrior of Light and Scions do if, in their attempt to reclaim territory, a bunch of non-combatants decide to defend their friends and family with pitchforks? Will they be cut down if they can't be convinced? All excellent questions and scenarios I hope the developers take into consideration. I have faith that they will given the trailer's content and lyrics, though.

It'd be interesting to see how a lot of the people frequenting this place would react if the reality of such a war was explored in full.

[Belhi]

I think there will definitely be an aspect of the cost of war but the expansion is clearly themed around liberation. I think at the end of it the actions of the WoL will be presented as the right call. Garlemald is clearly going to be the antagonists. I think the real fallout of this war cost wise will come afterward. I think its very unlikely that the WoL will be painted in a bad light. In the end the WoL is the protagonist and people don't want to feel like they are on the wrong side. That said showing that their is a human cost to their actions is worth while.

To some extent there was a little of this in Heavensward. Realistically there was no neat solution, no peaceful, clean way to end the war. The conflict involved was just too ingrained. Not taking action was more risky and potentially far more damaging than taking action. To some extent I think this will be a factor in Stormblood but in the end I expect the sense that the WoL is making the right call will be there.

[KageTokage]

It doesn't look as though the Eorzean alliance is actually present in Othard and rather that it's just us and the Scions who head there. I assume they'd probably be too busy holding the line over in Ala Mhigo to send forces over.

I also get the impression that the main reason Othard even fell under imperial rule in the first place is that it was divided at the time of the invasion, unlike Eorzea which had established an alliance between the three Grand Companies by the time the Garleans arrived. Hien probably realized that after their failed uprising, which is why he's trying to gain the support of the Xaela tribes (And presumably others, considering that the Kolin are going be getting involved, as well).

[SuperFlorinjin]

I think there will definitely be an aspect of the cost of war but the expansion is clearly themed around liberation. I think at the end of it the actions of the WoL will be presented as the right call. Garlemald is clearly going to be the antagonists. I think the real fallout of this war cost wise will come afterward.

I'm betting that by the end of things we'll have booted Garlemald out of Doma and Ala Mhigo... and that will cause them to step up their game. It'll be their first REAL loss in decades of war, not just stalled or losing an army or two but actually forced out of 'their' territory.

[Lauront]

I wonder if one or both revolutions will fail, or end up being pyrrhic victories!

[Naraku_Diabolos]

It doesn't look as though the Eorzean alliance is actually present in Othard and rather that it's just us and the Scions who head there. I assume they'd probably be too busy holding the line over in Ala Mhigo to send forces over.

I also get the impression that the main reason Othard even fell under imperial rule in the first place is that it was divided at the time of the invasion, unlike Eorzea which had established an alliance between the three Grand Companies by the time the Garleans arrived. Hien probably realized that after their failed uprising, which is why he's trying to gain the support of the Xaela tribes (And presumably others, considering that the Kolin are going be getting involved, as well).

I agree with you on this. I do think that us players, with the story, are going to do what we can to establish a rebellion force there in Ala Mhigo, but then switch gears to liberate Othard. If we can take out Yutsuyu and unify Doma, then they can help us reclaim Ala Mhigo from Garlemald. That way there will be an alliance between Othard and Ilsaberd against Garlemald. I think that 5.0 will have both Ala Mhigo and Doma unified so that they will join our Alliance so we can go against the Empire.

[myahele]

I can see the Garleans (Or zenos) taking a scorched earth policy. If they're going to lose Doma and Ala Mhigo proper, then why not destroy as much resources and property so that the GCs won't benefit from it?

It'll still be liberated, but now the allied forces will have to spend resources to rebuild them

Anyways, I'm very excited to see the Xaelan tribes. I've always wondered if they're under Garlean rule or the Garleans just leave them to their own devices since they may not consider them an immediate threat, nor do they see any desirable resources in the Steppes compared to Othard

[Mieck]

In regard to the "Thancred could be going traitor" angle mentioned earlier, I've been re-watching some stuff from 3.x and 1.x, and I wonder whether it isn't more likely that he is getting involved because he is still very fond of Minfilia/Ascilia, and his lingering guilt for failing to protect her father Warburton when they got mixed up in the escaped Goobbue rampage in Ul'dah.

From the very beginning, of all of the Scions, he has had some interest and concern for a citizen of Ala Mhigo. His words for Uriangier at the end of 3.4 indicate that he feels like interpreting and acting upon Minfilia's wishes is what he should be doing.

[Wolfman88]

I was watching the new trailer and began wondering about the Eorzean Alliance. What role will the Eorzean Alliance play in stormblood? Would they directly support the revolution in Ala Mhigo and Doma? This is where I began wondering the possible repercussions of this. If the alliance directly supports the revolution, will that count as an act of war toward the Empire?

Our connection, as the WoL, with the 4 city states and us venturing into the new region to help the revolution could be independent of the Eorzean Alliance since we are going in with the scions and for Lyse. Granted, the empire knows our connection with the Eorzean alliance is tight so it could be seen as an act of aggression towards the empire regardless of the WoL's intentions.

Then there is Raubahn who has an interest in the revolution. Will his actions be in the best interest of the Eorzean alliance? I'm guessing by the trailer that Raubahn will play an important role but will he drag the others with him?

[LyricalM]

I noticed that as well. Though I didn't see anyone from the Eorzean Alliance in Othard. It might be that they don't want to leave the border of Gyr Abania, which would mean that they're protecting themselves from any re-precautions from the Garleans. I really do think that the actions of the WoL are going to cause a lot of trouble and with the connections made with all 4 city states, it seems pretty obvious that they're going to be defending themselves from the Garleans after the revolution of Ala Mihgo.

And for Raubahn and his actions? Well, the Eorzean alliance was already dragged into the fight by the Griffin so we will have to wait and see what kind of decisions they make and if they have any personal conflict there. I assume that there will be some, but I'm not sure how deep it will do. I'm excited to see what will happen to say the least.