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    Player Okamimaru's Avatar
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    Rastiana Bel'briar
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    Fordola may turn against both the empire and ala mhigo... hating the empire and ala mhigo both equally and placing blame on both for forcing the trajectory or her life in such a way.... alone, angry and a skilled warrior... this makes a dangerous combination.... how much whispering in her ear from the ascians would it take for her to go to exteme measures to exact revenge on those she feels wronged her.... if she lives I think we will have quite a silent threat to watch out for
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    Did anyone else notice that during the part of the song where y'shtola blocks zenos' sword the lyrics specifically "she shall die."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    Did anyone else notice that during the part of the song where y'shtola blocks zenos' sword the lyrics specifically "she shall die."
    I did. There has been mention of the spells she has been using especially to function normally after her time in the stream will kill her at some point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    Did anyone else notice that during the part of the song where y'shtola blocks zenos' sword the lyrics specifically "she shall die."
    The lyrics are actually probably "she shall guide", as "Trust in grace / and she shall die" doesn't make much sense in the context of the verse (which is warning the listener against being blinded by faith in justice, and instead to turn to grace). This MAY be a death flag for Shtola, but as this game has a habit of subverting death flags (Aymeric has dozens) and as Y'Shtola is practically the face of the game merch-wise, I'm not gonna get to worried about her fate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hinoto-no-Ryuji View Post
    Y'Shtola is practically the face of the game merch-wise
    Yep. She was the FFXIV stand-in in both Dissidia and Theathrhythm, probably because she's the most prominent catgirl the game has to offer, so I don't see her going anywhere anytime soon. And I'm glad about that too. I feel like she's the only Scion that gets shit done right away! Boss ass besh right there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    Did anyone else notice that during the part of the song where y'shtola blocks zenos' sword the lyrics specifically "she shall die."
    So that launch trailer.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Acf6lPBNXOU
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    Yeah, they're highly unlikely to kill off Y'shtola, given that she's the stand in for FFXIV where other titles are concerned. She's also - in my opinion - one of the more nuanced Scions, given that she wasn't afraid to call out Merlwyb for the hypocrisy involving dealings with the Kobolds and Sahagin. I would like it very much if she served as the voice of reason to call out her allies if they seek to go too far during 4.0 and beyond. She recognised the merit in temporarily teaming up with Regula, after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Yeah, they're highly unlikely to kill off Y'shtola, given that she's the stand in for FFXIV where other titles are concerned. She's also - in my opinion - one of the more nuanced Scions, given that she wasn't afraid to call out Merlwyb for the hypocrisy involving dealings with the Kobolds and Sahagin. I would like it very much if she served as the voice of reason to call out her allies if they seek to go too far during 4.0 and beyond. She recognised the merit in temporarily teaming up with Regula, after all.
    I also believe that it said "guide" not "die". Otherwise that would be one massive spoiler.

    Sorry for the little off topic: I found that scene with her and Merlwyb kinda interesting, since calling someone out is really easy but I was wondering what she herself would have done if she needed to take care of a whole city/country. IMO its always easy to point fingers but sometimes I wonder how the scions would solve the problems if they are in charge. (Also kinda funny since the scions still dont have a solution to stop the primals from being summoned..they most of the time only react when its too late.)


    But I do kinda wonder how many of the shown characters are still alive after the expansion. I believe that most of the scions will survive this, since they already lost quite some people in 2.0 and 3.0. (I mean its not only the main scions that died for us) The new roe guy just really has a lot of death flags imo and also Yugiri is on that list. I still hope that we will go out of this with our allies alive but after HW..well I just stay realistic and hope that my last two or three liked characters are going to make it. x)
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    I find it silly to knock the Scions for not having a solution to Primals considering there's, like, no easy solution to it, lol? That's kind of the whole point! The vaunted wisdom of Allag could only contain them, but time and time again we've seen their containments fail--especially considering the Tempering process can occur with them contained. (And it's going to be impossible to convince someone not to mess with something for all of eternity, so it's gonna happen).

    We could look to Varis' solution, but is genocide really something you want to advocate? Not to mention that's going to cause more summonings before it causes less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    I find it silly to knock the Scions for not having a solution to Primals considering there's, like, no easy solution to it, lol?
    My point was more to show how its easy to point fingers at things but that solving the problem itself might not be that easy itself. And if you take care of a whole country then a possible good solution can turn into a catastrophic ending really fast. So Y'shtola might have been in the right to point it out but it does not change the fact that she is not the one in charge thus does not have to make those decisions herself. (I at least would not want to be in the position of making such choices)

    And who knows maybe in SB we or more Lyse will realize that its not that easy to take Ala Mhigo back and that maybe some people will even be opposed to it. But seeing how we managed to stop that long dragon/human war, I am quite sure that everything will be fine in the end. (Not sure if this is good or bad as storytelling)
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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