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  1. #1
    Player
    Lilseph's Avatar
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    Shadow Link
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Few ideas:

    * Upon failing a FATE involving a city or an specific area, said zone is now taken/destroyed. No quest giver/vendor NPCs are present until a new event gives you the chance to re-take/rebuild that territory.
    * Depending on weather, it now afects your stamina and energy. Rain increases your TP consumption by 20%, heat slowly drains it, stuff like magic weather (umbral wind) affects caster jobs instead, lightning storms have a chance to hit the player and kill them. Etc.
    * When your character dies, it dies. You need to create another one.
    * As your gear's durability drops, so does your stats. 50% durability = 50% of all its stats.
    * Housing now requires monthly taxes or the house is taken by the government.
    * The possibility of surviving a long fall is now removed. You'll die inmediatly as you land the floor, no matter if you had aggro or not. The falling distance has been reduced.
    * Retainers can now die in ventures.
    * Open world PvP is now enabled.
    * Overworld monsters can now level up when they kill a playable character. They also do it overtime if not killed.
    * Teleport Aetherytes are now removed from the game.
    * Mounts now can also be killed by monsters/players/long falls, losing them until you revive them with phoenix down, or any resurrection spell.
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    some changes to point 5:
    self repair will repair the gear to 100%. Repair NPC will cost 200 gil for every repaired %
    Dark matter vanish from the game, instead various mats will be used for repair (like walnut wood to repair stuff made of walnut wood)


    To create a "hardcore" server some mechanics have just to change how they were in 1.0 ^^
    Like a failed materia meld don't just destroy the materia, but also the whole gear
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    Last edited by Felis; 05-15-2017 at 09:33 PM.

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    SilkaN's Avatar
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    Reginaux Vannaire
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 80
    Watch how these servers eventually will get shut down because no one cba playing on them.
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    Player Vhailor's Avatar
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    Deionarra Eidolon
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    In general, I'd play on this server if it existed. I'd hardly call it "hard-core" though; besides your 11th point, none of this is all that dissimilar from FFXI. We're babied far too much by FFXIV's overly-convenient mechanics, so far as I'm concerned. I'd add in three other requests for a hard-core mode, though, which tie back to FFXI as well:
    • Monsters that are at your level should truly feel like the "even matches" that they are. Buff monster stats until this is the case.
    • There should be a significant XP penalty for death, including the potential for down-leveling.
    • Abilities and spells should have to be earned in some fashion. Bring back the "weapon skill" and "spell skill" attributes, and tie ability gain to those instead of raw character level.

    PS - My post isn't intended to be sarcastic. I would vastly prefer to play a version of FFXIV that takes away the guard-rails, so to speak. A version that demands players at least pay attention to what they're doing, and punishes them if they don't. FFXI, pre-Abyssea, generally nailed this feeling for me; demanding of me, but not so frustrating that I wanted to pitch my monitor across the room very often. Bringing these mechanics back into a server or three for FFXIV would do more to ensure my continued subscription than anything I've seen planned for Stormblood thus far.
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    Aylis's Avatar
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    Aylis Tessier
    World
    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Ummmm, no. The only hardcore thing about this all is it would be really hardcore to resist the urge to uninstall the game. Adding levels of tediousness does not make something hardcore. It just saps any fun away. That and I'd rather see them spend the money and time developing things the game needs. Not waste it on a special rules set server that is more or less going to be a ghost town.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashett View Post
    2. Items on the marketboard can only be bought and sold at the same city of the retainer that it is assigned too.
    Exa: If you made a retainer in U'ldah; people will have to use the marketboard in U'ldah in order to find your goods.
    This was a thing in 1.0 at the start, but why stop there? Also make it so there was no market board again and we all would have to manually go through each ward and click on each of the retainers hoping to find what we were looking for. Did that in 1.0 and trust me when I say it was NOT fun.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashett View Post
    standing in fresh water, or standing anywhere in Coerthas.
    But standing in fresh water for too long would mean an increasing 2% chance per Eorzean hour of a giant level 99 shark picking up on your scent and insta killing you. Spending lots of time in Coerthas and Thanalan too would be near fatal too. Pesky hypothermia, heat stroke, frostbite debuffs (modifiers to increase the allowed time in these zones included on special clothing like warm fuzzy coats) Getting five stacks of each means your character collapses and for one real life week anytime you log in all you see is a never ending unskippable cut scene of your character sitting in one of the healing pools at Bronze Lake with a catatonic facial expression while attendants try to get your character to drink that special mulled wine with a 5% chance at the start to actually drink it, 95% chance the wine dribbles out their mouths and down their shirt. The chance to drink the wine increases as the week nears its end.
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    Last edited by Aylis; 05-16-2017 at 01:03 AM.

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    Ahnohla Mujuuk
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    Sargatanas
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    Scholar Lv 90
    It's not about rl being miserable. I wouldn't change my RL for all the tea in China. HOWEVER, if I have to do the same chores in a game that I do in RL I may as well just unsub and do them irl where there is a tangible reward.
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    Mi An
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    Phantom
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    Paladin Lv 80
    I tried to play "The Word" but now I'm stuck there and cannot logoff. Any help appreciated.
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    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Xoria Tepes
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Too casual, no permadeath.

    (Seriously most of these are more annoying, trivial things and not really something I'd expect under "hardcore" and more like "realistic.")

    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    That would be the best game ever honestly I wouldn't have to pick between the two anymore!
    But all Black Desert amounts to is a 3D Maple Story.
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    Last edited by JunseiKei; 05-15-2017 at 11:48 PM.
    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

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    Hikaru Matsumura
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    Cactuar
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    All these ideas are fail... just bring back a true Game over. That's all you need. What is a true game over? Play any sega/Nes game with no continues and watch what happens.
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    Versatile Bottom
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    People are taking this thread way too serious holy crap lol. Everyones no effort game won't be changing anytime soon!
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