Battle system changes

[Driavna]

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You are wrong. Why? The game does a very bad job informing the player how cross-class system works, first the quest that advances your class to a job has a red marker, unless you have already leveled the other necessary class, so a new player will assume that his level is not high enough for it, because until that point was how the system worked. A proper design will allow picking the quest right away to inform the player what it's needed.

Also, the player is never informed that he has cross skills with more than one class and the only way to know it in-game will be by unlocking every single class first to check all skills.

So yes, was a bad design choice and SB will fix it.

[Kaethra]

No one can figure out Provoke is a Gladiator skill. They should change that.

Should change it yes (as I have never said they shouldn't). But I'm pretty sure most can figure out that Provoke can be used on WAR and DRK.

[Malzian]

Should change it yes (as I have never said they shouldn't). But I'm pretty sure most can figure out that Provoke can be used on WAR and DRK.

They are changing it. This is the whole purpose (and honestly the argument for) the change from Cross-Class to Role skills. All tanks will have Provoke in Stormblood. This is a change we know is happening.

[Kaethra]

They are changing it. This is the whole purpose (and honestly the argument for) the change from Cross-Class to Role skills. All tanks will have Provoke in Stormblood. This is a change we know is happening.

I think you missed the discussion of what I said earlier. Which many of you are missing. Lemme lay it out for you all, and everytime one of you misses it (as I'm sure you all are ought to do again):

1. I know it will change.
2. I want it to change.
3. 'Newbies' will use it if they want to.
4. Bads will simply ignore it, as they do now.
5. The four points above are facts that many of you are burying your heads to avoid.

[Kaethra]

You picked one of the most obvious pair ups marauder/gladiator.

I used the example given.

If at some point this chain of events breaks the most natural thing is to don't know about it, this system in unnecessary obscure and easily lead to people missing important skills like a ninja without invigorate or blood for blood.

Since you keep missing it:

I think you missed the discussion of what I said earlier. Which many of you are missing. Lemme lay it out for you all, and everytime one of you misses it (as I'm sure you all are ought to do again):

1. I know it will change.
2. I want it to change.
3. 'Newbies' will use it if they want to.
4. Bads will simply ignore it, as they do now.
5. The four points above are facts that many of you are burying your heads to avoid.

[Driavna]

Should change it yes (as I have never said they shouldn't). But I'm pretty sure most can figure out that Provoke can be used on WAR and DRK.

Stop assuming everyone is a walking brick and stick to the facts for a new player. You picked one of the most obvious pair ups marauder/gladiator. Anyway let's use it:

- A walking brick pick marauder and level it to 30.

- Walking brick is a smart brick and decide to check that pesky quest marked as red and notice he need gladiator LvL 15.

- Since he is a very smart brick (he figures out that all those letters under skills mean classes) decide to check all gladiator skills for cross class abilities and learn that he need to level up to 34.

- He is not only a smart brick but a brick that work hard, so at LvL 30 decided to also unlock paladin for gladiator.

- Our heroic walking brick finally unlock paladin and notice something very important... paladins can use skills from marauder and conjurer and realize what that means! Marauder must pair at least with one more class.

- Since our brick is also resourceful and is not afraid of some research he learned about that marauder also shares skills with pugilist... a combo with zero sense but a critical buff and a self-health sounds nice.

If at some point this chain of events breaks the most natural thing is to don't know about it, this system in unnecessary obscure and easily lead to people missing important skills like a ninja without invigorate or blood for blood.