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    Challenge Log: Uncap Battle Class EXP

    So I know this was a big deal back when Heavensward first came out and the topic has died out but I'm going to bring it back and hopefully get some answers.

    So why was the challenge log portions for battle classes capped off and not uncapped from 50-60 for Heavensward, yet Gathering and Crafting classes saw their portions uncapped?

    Gathering and Crafting classes are far easier to level than battle craft classes as you can get HQ items for Crafting classes made by friends or bought off the MB and turn in for up to double the EXP normally earned and for gathering classes there's 1-2 levequests that have a EXP bonus dependent on the points you accumulate when doing the leve and gathering specific items.

    Will this be amended in Stormblood?

    Will it remain uncapped for future expansions? Or will we see it capped again with the expansion following Stormblood?

    I just want to know why Yoshi-P and the Dev's decided to cap the Battle Class EXP portions of the challenge log at 50 and not increase the rewards as you level from 50-60.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmel View Post
    Gathering and Crafting classes are far easier to level than battle craft classes as you can get HQ items for Crafting classes made by friends or bought off the MB and turn in for up to double the EXP normally earned and for gathering classes there's 1-2 levequests that have a EXP bonus dependent on the points you accumulate when doing the leve and gathering specific items.
    DoL/DoH have fewer sources of XP available, no to mention the lack of daily roulettes and armory bonus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    DoL/DoH have fewer sources of XP available, no to mention the lack of daily roulettes and armory bonus.
    But they are the easiest to level as I've stated above with reasons. Even without the challenge log they are the easiest classes to level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmel View Post
    But they are the easiest to level as I've stated above with reasons. Even without the challenge log they are the easiest classes to level.
    No they don't and if you find DoW/DoM harder to level than DoL/DoH is because you are doing something wrong. Also, Leves are limited.
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    Last edited by Driavna; 05-11-2017 at 10:35 PM.

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    So to be fair, let's just require the leve turn ins to be made by yourself, no? Same for GC turns ins, of course. They do have the crafters name tag after all. Now I think about it, I would really like this idea. And surely people who level crafts are interested to learn how to craft the items right.
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    Last edited by Sida; 05-11-2017 at 10:42 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    No they don't and if you find DoW/DoM harder to level than DoL/DoH is because you are doing something wrong. Also, Leves are limited.
    If you nullify the roulettes and compare how DoM/DoW and DoH/DoL level, Yes DoH and DoL are easier to level. Not everyone is a social little butterfly and can handle the pressure of being a decent DPS, Healer, or Tank via a roulette when you're grouping with strangers who are intent to order you to do a speed run or belittle you and/or boot you from an instance because you're still learning a class. You're probably about to use the "Go with friends" arguement, well not everyone is on around the same time or not everyone has friends ready to help them push through dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sida View Post
    So to be fair, let's just require the leve returns to be made by yourself, no? They do have the crafters name tag after all. Now I think about it, I would really like this idea. And surely people who level crafts are interested to learn how to map the items right.
    They already fixed that problem during HW with collectibles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    They already fixed that problem during HW with collectibles.
    Which I liked, but the leves are still there. You need do your battle leves and gather leves by yourself, why should you be able to pass crafter leves without own work.
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    Last edited by Sida; 05-11-2017 at 10:49 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sida View Post
    Which I liked, but the leves are still there. You need do your battle leves and gather leves by yourself, why should you be able to pass crafter leves without own work.
    You don't have to do battle leves by yourself. Plenty of people have lvl 60's power them in leves at lower levels. It's the Grand Company leves you have to do by yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmel View Post
    If you nullify the roulettes and compare how DoM/DoW and DoH/DoL level, Yes DoH and DoL are easier to level.
    Dungeons are a main course of playing battle class in MMO though. That you don't find them to be your thing is personal choise you do, it doesn't mean that the battle classes in general are harder to level. You have limited your available sources of experience by yourself. However since vast majority of the players don't find trouble with them, the experience from roulettes can't be ignored when comparing the sources. It's like, if I was complaning it's too hard to get PvP coins because I really don't find PvP battles comfortable.
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    If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.

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