Correct me if IM wrong

[weeble]

people seem to be defending achivements like its such great content...so let them just put in 1,000 achivements....that 1,000 new things to do! Its fluff that should be added all the time and barely even be mentioned. Does every Xbox and PS3 game put a bullet point on the back of the box saying ("and lots of achievments to do!") no....because its fluff, pure and simple.

your real content 99% of people will care about....moogle fight and maybe some story bits, the chocobo thing we already have that noone cares about...otherwise dont expect much.

<<<this ...it's an over rated trophy system. dont' know bout you but i don't do trophy's since i was like 5years old and i couldn't buy my own games and it was something to do inbetween birthdays and holidays for new games. it's garbage that you normally just receive while playing and go eww cool i kill this many mobs. yaay.

chocobo stuff i tried for few hours and wasn't that fun, if the rewards were worth it and they made them much more group oriented or easy to do with groups then maybe.

SE keeps making there mmo's in ways where you need to have a static group of friends or guild people you always roll with to really enjoy any of the garbage they put out like this. it's not for the majority to enjoy. it's like even the pvp in ffxi died out in 6months tops of it releasing. no one goes to look if there might be people there. public quests in games like warhammer are empty all day even if they are fun. no real rewards worth doing, no people to really do them with. how can they keep thinking this will be fun or even be used by players.

hopefully hamlets are done right. but i can't say i really did besiege in ffxi even that much.was fun but, it was like, do that or go grind for more exp... i'll go grind. make them the same exp then you have something worth doing. but then who would want to put together a party. lol they need to fix this type of stuff, just for the fun of it don't exist to me in mmo's like they do in offline games.

[buritoslicer]

/shutdown is coming in 1.20

Best. Feature. Evar!

Another high lvl dungeon fight is good enough for me, achievements and the rest are definitely going to bring out the achievement whore in me. Let's be optimistic, each patch has changed the game significantly so far...

[vageta666]

they adding newdungeons and instances too.

[weeble]

they adding newdungeons and instances too.

no they not i think that is .21
fact i'm wondering if it is 2 rank 50 dungeons or 1 and 1 rank 25?

but for sure not till .21 witch i bet won't be for what nother 3months?

[normalforce]

no they not i think that is .21
fact i'm wondering if it is 2 rank 50 dungeons or 1 and 1 rank 25?

but for sure not till .21 witch i bet won't be for what nother 3months?

Last I heard, 1.21 is slated for Mid-February. So early March, most likely as that's when jobs are being introduced.

[Zanfire]

Aside the fact you already make it clear you're very cynical when it comes to this game -- Your argument falls flat here:

Achievements in 360/Steam/PS3 does absolutely nothing but basically tell you "you've done this" very rarely are you rewarded for obtaining them -- They create goals to strive for (the point of it) but they don't have to announce it because the game isn't about achievements -- In an MMO setting, achievements are content that they normally announce because it's basically like announcing "Hey we added new quests" because it's telling your players they just added something for you to do.

do they normally make it one of only a few things your getting as content in the patch for other MMOs? Quests are story driven, you go to an NPC, head out with it in your log you can always check (and see where it is) go do it, come back and get more story bits with a reward. Achivements dont give even half of that. So if all we do is put rewards on stuff its now content?

ok run 10 feet and (100gil) = content then right? kill 10 mobs and get a pebble....CONTENT!

achievements are the lowest common denominator when it comes to content, its easy to make loads of it. There is a reason people thought leves sucked, this is just as pointless. I can come up with thousands of achievements and give them rewards....is that good content?

[Sephrick]

The Moogle fight is the "thing to do" in 1.2

Achievements are not something to do. Achievement systems double dip on content to give the illusion of new content but fine, if you have to be logged in, you can "do" that too, should eat mountains of time (how convenient).

Add on some other high level quests that's clearly something new you can do, fair enough.

Someone also mentioned seasonal content. Put that under the Achievements as something you can "do" if you couldn't log out for some reason.

Eh, I'd agree with you on the part that people called the Lodestone History "content." But the achievements have rewards. That's content to me.

[Renshi]

The Moogle fight will be something you want to accomplish in order to have fun and loots.
The Achievements are things you can do to have fun.
The Classes reform will be something you will get on with various content like Shposhae, Toto-rak, Darkhold, Strongholds, Ifrit, Dark Moogle, Roaing NMs, etc. and have fun by understanding your class in a new system.
The new Caravan Escort will bring you a higher level of difficulty, reward and fun.

Don't be closeminded. It's like you guys do things just for profit and progress without looking at the fun aspect of the actual and future content, which should be the whole main point in playing a game.


On a side note: I dunno you guys, but for me "Content" = "Something to do", so saying that Achievements and Learning the new Class System aren't something to do is kinda wrong =)

[Ilethius]

Might be a couple new nm/hnm coming in 1.20 we will have to wait and see.

[viion]

The Moogle fight will be something you want to accomplish in order to have fun and loots.
The Achievements are things you can do to have fun.
The Classes reform will be something you will get on with various content like Shposhae, Toto-rak, Darkhold, Strongholds, Ifrit, Dark Moogle, Roaing NMs, etc. and have fun by understanding your class in a new system.
The new Caravan Escort will bring you a higher level of difficulty, reward and fun.

Don't be closeminded. It's like you guys do things just for profit and progress without looking at the fun aspect of the actual and future content, which should be the whole main point in playing a game.


On a side note: I dunno you guys, but for me "Content" = "Something to do", so saying that Achievements and Learning the new Class System aren't something to do is kinda wrong =)

Has nothing to do with close minded, its called personal taste.

For example I dont consider Ifrit fight content or something to do for me because I have no interest in it. I dont want the weapons, I dont really like the look of them so I'd never use them, and the fight is so mundane now. So its not enjoyable content to me, its just there.

Achievements are not things you can do for fun, unless you enjoy that stuff, you wont have fun spending the next couple months killing mobs just so you can say you have the 200k kill achievement. Not to mention a lot of people have already done them...

Also yes the skills are changing, but not by loads, a lot of existing skills are still there, just renamed differently. So we now have less skills, and even less of them will be different so it wont take long to learn 4-5 new skills per class. I only care about conjurer so thats like 1 day of content to me.

There is usually "something for everyone" in an mmo, but not right now. Not blaming SE though, they have things to do and all the changes I welcome and should be in, im not the one really complaining XD just you cant say there are lots of things to do and people shouldn't be close minded when you wouldn't pay to go see a film at the cinema you know you wont like.