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    Ama Hamada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astrus View Post
    Oh I know the ToS, I just interpret them different from the way you seem to do.

    A dispell is in the game, it's just not called "Dispell" much like that spell that restores health is not called "That Spell that restores Health" and the AoE heal is not called "AoE Heal". The English names for the dispell action are Exalted Detriment for AST, Leeches for SCH and Esuna for WHM. The person asking for the dispell might not even have been playing with the Englishclient, some of the localized names are vastly different.
    Just to stick with the dispell action the German names are Exil for AST, Lustration for SCH and Medica for WHM. There's not much of a correlation between translated names here.

    Referring to the action by what it does, dispell, is perfectly understandable. Especially if it was because something had to be cleansed asap and there was no time for looking at a wiki to check what the spell's exact name was.

    Sometimes I wonder if people go out of their way to misunderstand everything in the worst possible way just to have something to label toxic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    Also "dispell" (guessing dispel?) is not leeches:
    Dispel refers to a spell or ability that removes one or more beneficial status effects from a target. There are numerous ways an effect can be dispelled, be it a spell, blood pact, job ability, weapon effect, or monster special attack.
    http://ffxiclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Dispel
    leeches:
    Removes a single detrimental effect from target.

    https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Leeches
    THEY DO DIFFERENT THINGS!
    https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/One_Ilm_Punch
    Additional Effect: Removes one beneficial status from target
    SCH does not have dispel, but MNK does.

    Spaming someone for leeches is a violation, insulting someone (name calling) is a violation, lol, you can interrupt the ToS differently all you like, but what matters is how the GMs see it.

    "Sometimes I wonder if people go out of their way to misunderstand everything in the worst possible way just to have something to label toxic."
    "Sometimes I wonder if people go out of their way to twist stories just to try attack someone in a passive-aggressive manner"

    Oh wait.. that is exactly what you are doing:

    Quote Originally Posted by Astrus View Post
    Suddenly I'm no longer surprised that your friends always encounter the terrible "toxic" people wherever they go.
    Let me guess, you are going to deny being toxic when you flat out insulted me friend and proved my point with the story twisting?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    Second of all spamming someone is considered a violation and kickable so yes the kick was legitimate, 3rd even when they first asked for "dispell" it was done in an insulting manner and my friend was already considering kicking them for it, due to that insult and the noncooperation during the floors prior in not helping kill monsters to finish scouting the floors. Lastly when they spammed saying leeches, yeah that pushed it and got kicked for it. There is no excuse to defend toxicity and noncooperation in DF. I am shocked how people want to twist stories to attack people on the forums, but I hope it was from simply misunderstanding what was said.
    You are acting like the person that got kicked asked for dispell in a civil manner and said "leeches" once, that is not what happened. Also keep in mind this was 4 floors or so later when they already had not being cooperative both in action and in chat. It was just an added offense that the speed runner was aggressive to my friend acting like it was her job (kinda like you are doing) to know what "dispell" is suppose to mean (even though you and the speedrunner got the wrong meaning anyway)

    As for people saying I am the issue, no I do not have "problem with everyone" and I was disheartened to see one of my friends stop doing Deep for the day because of people not cooperating at all. (and no it is not the person I talk about frequently, a different person)

    For the people that saying "different playstyles is not harassment/toxic" that is true, and I agree on that. MPKing, verbal abuse, and wiping runs because different playstyles is harassment however, like this case. I like to know why people seem to love and twist things around to try paint blame on me when it does not belong.
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    Last edited by Ama_Hamada; 05-12-2017 at 01:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    leeches:
    Removes a single detrimental effect from target.

    https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Leeches
    THEY DO DIFFERENT THINGS!
    https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/One_Ilm_Punch


    SCH does not have dispel, but MNK does.
    Oh honey...
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    Baby, tell me, what's your motive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    "Sometimes I wonder if people go out of their way to misunderstand everything in the worst possible way just to have something to label toxic."
    "Sometimes I wonder if people go out of their way to twist stories just to try attack someone in a passive-aggressive manner"
    The irony of this statement is suffocating.....
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