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  1. #11
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    Yeol's Avatar
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    Dr Yeol
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Generally, in a speed run people will not walk in packs, but rather spread to explore rooms in order to find the room with the 'key'. Once it is found everyone changes their destination and starts heading to that room.

    If a mob starts attacking you and you think you can't kill it by yourself, simply run back to where people are. They will kill it off you. Don't wait in one spot asking for help because they will not come to you.
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  2. #12
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    Sida Bajihri
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    i think they should calculate the exp you get at the end of every 10th floor based on the amount of enemys you killed and chests opened.
    That would put certain classes to highly disadvantageous position, and would only cause an issue of "kill stealing" grief. Even if someone with longer cast times would in all earnestly try to participate, they might still not get kills because things are killed while they cast. And some opportunistic runners would not take part in whiddling down the monsters, but just priming in for the killing blow. And healers would active not heal, even if that was needed, if they first need to a sure they get the kills. Or even just "damage done" count.
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    Last edited by Sida; 05-11-2017 at 03:37 PM.

  3. #13
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sida View Post
    That would put certain classes to highly disadvantageous position, and would only cause an issue of "kill stealing" grief. Even if someone with longer cast times would in all earnestly try to participate, they might still not get kills because things are killed while they cast. And some opportunistic runners would not take part in whiddling down the monsters, but just priming in for the killing blow.
    waht? you are a team, a kill counts for everyone in the party. it already counts the kills of your party and gives you a highscore at floor 100 and beyond, based on the kills of your party. not to mention that the game counts your kills for some achievments, even when you not even hit the enemy once (as a healer for example).
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  4. #14
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    Sida Bajihri
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    waht? you are a team, a kill counts for everyone in the party. it already counts the kills of your party and gives you a highscore at floor 100 and beyond, based on the kills of your party. not to mention that the game counts your kills for some achievments, even when you not even hit the enemy once (as a healer for example).
    Ah, seems I misread your post, apologies
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    If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.

  5. #15
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    Astrus's Avatar
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    Character
    Karma Dunkelsonn
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    then finally one of the speedrunners got kicked for spamming "leeches" after rudely asking for "dispell" when my friend had no clue what "dispell" was because it is not a name of any ability she has.
    So someone asked for a dispell which is perfectly legitimate and didn't get one because the person with the dispell didn't know which of their spells it was. After telling them how the dispell is called on a Scholar because apparently the healer does not know all of the spells in their toolbox they get kicked for having the audacity of asking for a dispell and pointing out how it's called.

    Suddenly I'm no longer surprised that your friends always encounter the terrible "toxic" people wherever they go.
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  6. #16
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    Driavna's Avatar
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Sagittarius
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Stop requesting SE to act like your fathers or teachers, the game already offers enough tools to create a party to suit your needs.
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  7. #17
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    silentwindfr's Avatar
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    Florence Leduc
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Atlaworks View Post
    Run fixed. They can run fixed if they've got a problem and are in the minority or can't put up with pugs, either.

    But if you're the only one in the party that wants chests, maybe you're the one who should get out and go run fixed.
    i'm 99/99 and don't need weapon anymore... but when i run in deep dungeon i will be nice and see if people want silver, easy to take 10 second to ask. more communication and respect with the fellow member of a group.
    say run in fixed is not an answer. people need to respect the other with who they run. they aren't alone. if it's a consensus of the group to speed run, i speed run, if people need silver i will get them silver. that is as simple than this...

    play in duty means be with 3 other person, you are not alone in the group, communicate with the other for see what they want to do is a minimum, sadly speed runner don't care and rarely ask, it was like this at the 2.0 and we had a debat...
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  8. #18
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    L'alba Dashama
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    Mateus
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    Stop requesting SE to act like your fathers or teachers, the game already offers enough tools to create a party to suit your needs.
    Then how about everyone who wants to speedrun makes their own party? People have differing -valid- reasons to do it the way they're doing it, and having to make a premade party just to ensure you are all in the SAME instance for the SAME reason is asinine. If you disagree then you are never allowed to queue through duty finder again.
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    "You don't need a reason to help people." -Zidane Tribal

  9. #19
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    Driavna's Avatar
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePatron13 View Post
    Then how about everyone who wants to speedrun makes their own party? People have differing -valid- reasons to do it the way they're doing it, and having to make a premade party just to ensure you are all in the SAME instance for the SAME reason is asinine. If you disagree then you are never allowed to queue through duty finder again.
    No, is the only way to ensure everyone is on the same page. PoTD only requires 3 more members without any particular class or level and the area where you had to que is always crowded with people.
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    Last edited by Driavna; 05-11-2017 at 05:42 PM.

  10. #20
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    Florence Leduc
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    No, is the only way to ensure everyone is on the same page. PoTD only require 3 more members without any particular class or level and the area where you had to que is always crowded with people
    duty finder is made for allows player to meet other for do the content AS INTENDED by the dev, not as the speed runner wanted it.
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