[Dev question] Do you know about the player devision in palace of the dead?

[Sida]

Removing that dispel case from context looks like that. However as you yourself pointed out earlier, it was a culmination of miscommunication during a few floors. And while I say miscommunication, yes, I say it was going on both ways. If I got your original post right, your friends had slammed their help macro to them, while the gate was already open. I understand how it might have been valid help calls from your friends point of view, but consider it might have gone like this.

Gate is open, people head on the gate as is usual from most of their runs. Someone says help, to which they say ok, expecting those said persons being pulling things that bite them to the gate. They wait because that's how they are used to act in such situation. Yet your friends keep spamming the help macro without heading towards them.

That in mind, they might just as well have though your friends were trolling at that point when they asked "what" to a dispell request which, by this thread response, seems to be obvious to everyone else expect you.

[Meraii]

I'm not the OP Sida, I'm just pointing out that manners cost nothing, and debating the meaning of dispel is pointless.
I'm not defending the OP either, if you're on the other side of the dungeon to everyone else and spamming 'help' instead of being proactive and just running back to the group, then of course you're going to have a bad time.
On the other hand, if all attempts to communicate with the LEECHES dude has been met with the reply of "?" time and time again, then I can imagine it gets frustrating pretty quick.

[whiteblade89]

Maybe it's just me, but if I was healing and someone asked for a dispell, I'd immediately think Esuna or the other two variations of said spell. Splitting hairs about what dispell actually means doesn't make me or anyone else more sympathetic to your situation. I'm honestly shocked that you and your friends have so many of these "toxic" runs that you constantly post about. I've been playing this game for 2 1/2 years now and the good runs I have far outshine the few bad ones I've had. Frankly, you seem like the type of person who is far too sensitive. You need thick skin, not just in this game, but in life as well. There's no cure for toxic behavior. The devs can't do anything about it. You know how many runs I've had that could have devolved into something worse if I had responded poorly to it? Plenty. But I'm an accommodating person. If what another player wants is different from what I want, I simply seek a group consensus. Whatever the majority wants is what we do. That's just how it is sometimes. You don't always get your way. It's time you learn that. Pick your battles, my dear. And for the love of Twelve, stop being so kick/report happy. Half of your posts seem to be you kicking or reporting someone. I'm sure some of them are justified, but I highly doubt that every person you report or kick has deserved it.

[Alistaire]

Except dispel is in the game...though it's not used much. MNK has it: One-ilm punch.

And even if it wasn't in the game, why type a confusing word or a (barely) shorter word that is completely clear?

As for OP, there's no division, it's pretty rare to run into a player like yourself.

And you're shooting yourself in the foot playing like that. Faster runs = more runs = more chests. Grab chests as you go and quit going out of your way; you'll do better in the long run.

[Chevronone]

You do not know the ToS do you?...noncooperation during the floors prior in not helping kill monsters to finish scouting the floors.

Once that teleporter lights up, no one is under any obligation to help you scout anything. You have met the requirements to go to the next floor and following the mechanic that the game provided to do so by standing in it. It is not a violation of ToS to follow a game mechanic property. Is SE intended that you must explore and clear every chest on each floor, then they should not have allowed the mechanic to travel to the next floor to become available until said was accomplished.

Technically, your friends are doing the exact same thing you're complaining about...not participating in the desired result of other party members following equally valid mechanics.

No one is right and no one is wrong. Move on.

[Alistaire]

No one is right and no one is wrong. Move on.

Well, this part isn't quite right. If 3 people want to do the runs the way the grand majority of the community has decided to do (and for good reason), but the 4th person wants to go explore every nook for every possible chest, they're in the minority. If that person doesn't conform to the other 3 (even just 2), they're easily voted out. No ToS breaking involved.

[Kaethra]

This is kinda weird. Everyone's going on about what dispel means, and I'm wondering why the hell someone got an effect on them that needs to be cleaned off in the first place. Every debuff in PotD 1-100 is avoidable. The only exception (due to how traps are sneaky) is the pacification debuff.

Also why don't people carry Eye Drops, Spine Drops, Echo Drops, and Anidotes? They're cheap. I carry a stack of each. They work wonders even in normal dungeons.

[Ama_Hamada]

Except dispel is in the game...though it's not used much. MNK has it: One-ilm punch.

And even if it wasn't in the game, why type a confusing word or a (barely) shorter word that is completely clear?As for OP, there's no division, it's pretty rare to run into a player like yourself.

And you're shooting yourself in the foot playing like that. Faster runs = more runs = more chests. Grab chests as you go and quit going out of your way; you'll do better in the long run.

Same length, you are still thinking the person typed dispel, they typed dispell, then used leeches from the translate.
So if we say they typed "lee" tab key, that is actually shorter then typing dispell, 4 keys vs 7.

I disagree with "And you're shooting yourself in the foot playing like that. Faster runs = more runs = more chests. Grab chests as you go and quit going out of your way; you'll do better in the long run. "

I seen rooms have 3 silvers in one room before. Plus I think it isn't fair to rush low aetherpool members anyway, how are 20-30 rating supposed to get aetherpool gear? its not going to be in floor 61-100.

But ya I spoke about One-ilm punch in this thread and she is a curious person without a monk in the party, so was confused why that was being asked for... since it is not something she saw before or know about (needing to dispel something)

No one is right and no one is wrong. Move on.

Lol.. I do not think so, lets go on everything that happened wrong shall we?

Speedrunners entering assuming people will not look for chests, despite HP showing low aeatherpool on 2 people.
Speedrunners not talking to chest runners despite chest runners making an effort to get across they are there for silvers and need help killing a monster or 2 to see all the rooms.
Sitting at gate thing when chest runners made it clear they needed help to explore the rest of the floor
A speedrunner asking for an ability to be used in a negative sarcastic tone. (regardless if it should be understood what it means, doing it in this manner is wrong)
Spamming what they want after it was asked what they mean.

This is kinda weird. Everyone's going on about what dispel means, and I'm wondering why the hell someone got an effect on them that needs to be cleaned off in the first place. Every debuff in PotD 1-100 is avoidable. The only exception (due to how traps are sneaky) is the pacification debuff.

Also why don't people carry Eye Drops, Spine Drops, Echo Drops, and Anidotes? They're cheap. I carry a stack of each. They work wonders even in normal dungeons.

She has no idea what was on them for them to be complaining. There was a floor effect, pacification, adding to the number of things on the party list for debuff/buff menu. In the end it was not critical, as the spam took place when everything was dead and she didn't even see anything to remove at that point, which added to her confusion. Unless... maybe the person had pacification from a trap + the floor effect? harder to notice in that case since there is a limit of effects the party menu lists.

[Alistaire]

Same length, you are still thinking the person typed dispel, they typed dispell, then used leeches from the translate.

esuna /10chars

[Ama_Hamada]

esuna /10chars

I know? tell that to the people that got nasty though, its like.. no point in telling me this. The point of what you quoted of me was to show the person I was replying to, that the person put more effort in typing "dispell" (not dispel, so 7 chrs not 6) when they used leeches though the translate, and that is a lot less key presses then typing dispell, so the question would be, why even bother saying a word someone may not know to begin with?