Thread: Suggestion - Make Frontline Rule/Map selection random come Stormblood (or 4.1).

Shatter is so boring. If I wanted to hit inanimate objects I would have done PVE. I have made this statement multiple times to my FC

Originally Posted by OskarXCI

So this is the situation right now on Chaos (EU) Data Center.

Originally Posted by Synestra

Thats kinda sad to be honest as it shows that players dont really like to actually do pvp in pvp and if they did like it then they would choose secure/seize or feast instead shatter. Seize is my personal favorite as it has objectives that forces you to do pvp compared to ice killing race in shatter, secure also forces you to engage enemy team so its good alternative for seize.

Originally Posted by OskarXCI

There's also the possibility that many people don't know that you can queue for all three maps at the same time, unlike The Feast.

Actually, let me change that. I think the true culprits are those that only queue for The Field of Glory (Shatter) which forces the Frontline roulette to place people in the same group as them just so it pops faster. Since more people queue only for Shatter, those that queue for Seize and/or Secure are stuck in limbo since the roulette prioritizes people queuing for a specific thing for short wait times over pure randomness.

Seize and Secure were kinda active last Saturday and Monday (had a really fun time), but I think this only happened because the PvE instance servers were down at the time (EU) and people had nothing else to queue for.

Tuesday onward has pretty much been like this:



All while Shatter is less than 5 min in queue time.

Can we please have some form of map rotation? Would prefer daily.

Thank you.

Fully agree with this. Queued up with a friend all day yesterday to get the garo gear/title/mount and all 33 Frontlines was Shatter. I honestly miss Secure because it's been years, and I've never been able to play Seize because I wasn't subbed then, so now those achievements are looking almost impossible. Shatter isn't bad at all, but you have 2 other maps, let it rotate to keep things fresh.

Originally Posted by Rankina

Fully agree with this. Queued up with a friend all day yesterday to get the garo gear/title/mount and all 33 Frontlines was Shatter. I honestly miss Secure because it's been years, and I've never been able to play Seize because I wasn't subbed then, so now those achievements are looking almost impossible. Shatter isn't bad at all, but you have 2 other maps, let it rotate to keep things fresh.

Thank you.

Before 4.01, people had a tiny reason to not queue for Secure but now that duration is taken into account regarding EXP, it's now just as good as the other modes/maps.

Going by all posts that I have made in this thread, it may come off like I'm really not enjoying Shatter. Shatter is fun but I just want some variety in my PvP experience. Lets play all three maps equally with a daily map rotation.

All you have to do is tell people to stop queuing for Shatter...you get Shatter in the roulette because that is all people are queuing for non-roulette, not because of the "rotation" which doesn't exist. The best part of this PvP change is no more 30 min queue because it tried to put me into the level 50 Frontlines garbage because that one level 50 who refused to buy HW wanted to do a PvP match. Not only were the old maps less fun...the only reason I was there was for the bonus tomes not to not get tomes!

I believe now its because Shatter has the Mount reward so people are gunning for that reward and just queueing shatter, since mounts are very popular.

Really want a proper locked roulette so we have more variety.

Originally Posted by OskarXCI

Seal Rock has a whole glamour set (Field Commander) that I believe many would like to have.

Despite this, rewards from achievements is not really an excuse for not having some form of rotation. Just spam the queue whenever your wanted map is active in the rotation.

Yeah but I feel like mounts tend to be more popular. Though that may be bias since I like mounts.

I'm not saying that it's an excuse for not having rotation, I was just saying that the mount is why i think that Shatter keeps on popping over and over again.

I had my best game in seals rock back in the days. If I can see again better strategic call than just "CRYSTAAAALLL!!!! <se.1>", I'll upvote anything that could bring it back.

While waiting for this to be added, you can still try the hours past reset to queue only for shatter/secure, you can drag lots of people doing roulettes that way. A few month before SB, I managed to make pop some 72 man slaughter with "decent" queue times that way X). (I was probably not the only one doing that tho)