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    kaptainpancake69's Avatar
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    Tossed Salad
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    Cerberus
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    Rogue Lv 60

    900/900 only 2 dungeons to farm?

    Are there seriously no other alternatives than farming the two same god forsaken dungeons. I think I can do Xepha and the Library with my eyes closed.
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    Kaethra's Avatar
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    Kaethra Tatrinae
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    I actually have no idea why the Expert Roulette is so small compared to the others. Should be 6-8 dungeons minimum.
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    Player Giubba's Avatar
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    Athmas Bloedornnsyn
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    Lich
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    I actually have no idea why the Expert Roulette is so small compared to the others. Should be 6-8 dungeons minimum.
    Yep agree.

    And to add injury to insult the ex roulette is deeply flawed in favor of one of the 2 dungeon.
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    Last edited by Giubba; 05-02-2017 at 01:48 AM.

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    Airget Lamh
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    Hyperion
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    I actually have no idea why the Expert Roulette is so small compared to the others. Should be 6-8 dungeons minimum.
    Nope, because Expert is designed to offer a player the most efficient way to cap 450 tomes. 900 tomes now is just a nice incentive to help people prepare for 4.0/have a starting edge, which is funny cause SE doubles the weekly limit and yet people will still find something to complain about.

    As for Expert, if they had the 2 new dungeon and the 2 old dungeons you run into this issue. 70-90 Scriptures per Expert done daily meaning you have a chance to get anywhere from 490-630. However if we first focus on 450, divided by 70 means you need to do Expert all 7 days to cap if you just do that but if it's at 90 it's 5 days, huge difference. And honestly it's most likely more work for them to create a mess of a system in which they somehow make it where when you do Expert Roulette you will always get 90 Scriptures while allowing the 2 newest and 2 oldest into it that it's just not worth it.

    Heck adding lv 60 dungeons that 15 + X (X is dungeon scripture gains). So at min you gain 25 and at max 45 on top of 90 from Expert, so from there you gain 115-135 tomes daily, At Min with 450 that's 4 days to cap, at max 4 days. With basic math you can clearly see why Expert is the way it is, if they changed it where there was a variable in how many scriptures you gained daily it would create a variable in which you may need to do 5-7 to cap, however if you do Expert+60 roulette it is guaranteed to reduce the amount of days you need to play by 1 since the 60 dungeon variable doesn't affect it as much.

    Sadly though in the case of only doing those two to cap at 900 it's 8 days(115 daily) and 7 days(135 daily), so in the cast of getting the min you would still need to get at least 95 Scriptures to cap but for max you would be over by 35.

    Basically, people need to stop looking at roulette's as why is there only two options and understand that they are designed to help casual players/people short on time to reach their weekly tome cap with ease. Yes this means there are only 2 options for the top tier, but because of that you can gain the most efficient amount of tomestones per day and be done in 5 days if that's all you have time to complete.
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    Kaethra Tatrinae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    Nope, because Expert is designed to offer a player the most efficient way to cap 450 tomes. 900 tomes now is just a nice incentive to help people prepare for 4.0/have a starting edge, which is funny cause SE doubles the weekly limit and yet people will still find something to complain about.
    I'm not even worried about the cap. There's no variety in the top level roulette. For anyone doing 4 man content, that's a lack of variety.
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    Aylis Tessier
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    I actually have no idea why the Expert Roulette is so small compared to the others. Should be 6-8 dungeons minimum.
    It's because today's EX dungeons eventually become next month's level 60 dungeons, which eventually become next years leveling dungeons. Adding more EX dungeons today may help for today. Next month and next year however, it's just going to add more dungeon bloat and not really accomplish anything. EX will still be small, while level 60 and leveling will still be engorged.
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    Anrui Mydia
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    Hyperion
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    Warrior Lv 100
    You can pretty much cap the 900 just doing your daily Roulettes every day during the week and that will give you more variety in content.
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    Silverquick Fox
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by seraf View Post
    You can pretty much cap the 900 just doing your daily Roulettes every day during the week and that will give you more variety in content.
    Yeah that's what I do.

    I actually prefer the level 60 roulettes, because I could end up anywhere, and pop into a dungeon I havent' seen in a long time.

    I generally go SMN for...

    Level 60 Dungeon Roulette
    Leveling Dungeon Roulette
    Expert Roulette
    Trials

    Then I'll swap and BLM (I moonlight as BLM on occasion) for...

    Level 50 Dungeon Roulette
    Main Story Campaign Roulette
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    Molic Evac
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    Sargatanas
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    It gets worse when you realize all the dungeons are just reskinned hallways.
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    May not be the best way but PotD gives a fair amount if you're wanting the weapons or loot. Least how I capped for a month or so prior to the cap increase, havn't cared much since I started back up.
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